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I wouldn't cut the mustard because I wouldn't ever apply for a council farm. It does not appeal to me.
Why not? It’s the only way in for a lot of people. It’s just a shame there’s such a lack of holdings to progress to.
I wouldn't cut the mustard because I wouldn't ever apply for a council farm. It does not appeal to me.
They seem to be selling the land and turning the farm yards in to mini housing estates around here.
Tis a wonder the council give them planning permission
Why not? It’s the only way in for a lot of people. It’s just a shame there’s such a lack of holdings to progress to.
When my dad took on a council farm in 1980. The only heating was an open fire in the parlour, a room you'd never use, and they where going to do the roof before he moved in as it was required and damp was getting in.It's only reasonable to expect a tenant to want to see the house. If you are taking on a council farm, a big undertaking by anyone's measure, the last thing you want is a barely fit for habitation residence for your family. How do you know it's warm and damp free? I'd be pished off if I turned up and the house was in poor order and needed rooms for young kids to sleep in etc. A few photos of the interior and exterior is all people need.
Not sure on new FBT's. But on the old ag holding act tenancy, there was no provision for heating.Don’t the same rules apply to council farm houses as any other let properly , ie, they have to have a working heating system , energy ratings etc, with certificates for everything from boiler services to electrical wiring. You can’t legally let a house to a new tenant without these things.
friend was offered a 'golden handshake' to come out/buy his council farm, tenancy due to end, 2 yrs, agreed purchase of house, buildings, and 3/4 acres. Deal agreed, but council started to put various clauses, etc, which he was advised not to sign. During these discussions, they came and re-roofed his house, eventually agreement was reached, deal done. They then offered him the land for a further 5 yrs. It's no wonder councils are short of money, doing deals like that !
That’s right we are aha and are responsible for our own heating , plumbing ( everything above ground), internal decorating, kitchens , bathroom etc. We are also responsible for 50% of a lot of repairs ( gutters, windows, paint)Not sure on new FBT's. But on the old ag holding act tenancy, there was no provision for heating.
Some of the farm houses and cottages on our estate are very poorly heated or maintained. Private landlords who couldn’t give a toss. Probably why they just let the land on FBT to one tenant when farms become available now.Not sure on new FBT's. But on the old ag holding act tenancy, there was no provision for heating.
Some of the farm houses and cottages on our estate are very poorly heated or maintained. Private landlords who couldn’t give a toss. Probably why they just let the land on FBT to one tenant when farms become available now.
Theres 3 farmsteads with houses lying empty, plus 2 cottages that I know of . These farms all used to support more than one family. There’s no way a young farmer would ever get a start here unfortunately .
Some of the farm houses and cottages on our estate are very poorly heated or maintained. Private landlords who couldn’t give a toss. Probably why they just let the land on FBT to one tenant when farms become available now.
Theres 3 farmsteads with houses lying empty, plus 2 cottages that I know of . These farms all used to support more than one family. There’s no way a young farmer would ever get a start here unfortunately .
They’ve done the same here and have said they only want to end up with 2 tenants on the whole estate . Last year they re deployed all the FBT land to one tenantYour old agent has come over here and openly told me that there would be no new farm tenants on this estate. Farms coming vacant now would be split to existing tenants, with the houses let out privately. The previous, now retired, agent actively put blocks of land together to make viable units to let, as he did for this place.
Unfortunately that’s the set pattern that the national land agents instil in their suit wearers, rather than take a long term view of land stewardship and rural communities. I saw it plenty of times further South, but it’s steadily spreading, like most diseases.
So how would a new entrant fund that? 100 acres plus house, at what has been quoted on here say £120/acre = £12000 divided in 2 installments?You would be better off to buy some bare land and put up a shed on it.
So how would a new entrant fund that? 100 acres plus house, at what has been quoted on here say £120/acre = £12000 divided in 2 installments?
100 acres of reasonble land say £800000. So perhaps a deposit of 50k leaves 750k to borrow. Is it possible to borrow that on bare land as a youngish person?
Interest cheap at the moment but house and building will still need funding.
That will depend on where someone is in the country and paid work opportunities. In the SE small blocks of land make ££.Buy a small block of land with very good road access and go from there and buy blocks as and when you can.
Small blocks have higher value?Buy a small block of land with very good road access and go from there and buy blocks as and when you can.
It has always been so since before my time.round the big corn growing areas, is good hunting ground, years ago it was corn and beef/sheep, you probably cant buy, but could rent 'non arable' bits reasonably. Find a base, and work from there. Many arable farms are looking to include stock back into a rotation, it might not be 'cheap', but it's a lot cheaper than buying a base, and lets someone build stock numbers up, so if a chance occurs, 1/2 way there.
This is the biggest drawback with trying to get into farming, everything is expensive, dairy cows, for example, they are dear to buy, and dear to run, but they do start immediate payback. Sheep, best part of a year, before they start showing a return, and it's a numbers game. Pigs are either good, or awful. So how do youngsters get into farming, or, more importantly, fund their way in ? Hard work, and determination, go without saying, it's the cash bit, that's hard, is it really fair, to ask a young couple to put their house up for it, or an inheritance ? Somewhere along the way, we need to get fresh blood into our industry, and youngsters haven't got the cash, share farming, contract farming, are great, if you can get one, but, the best route, is still, born on, or wed to. There needs to be some urgent work done, to get these youngsters in.