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Please could the collective minds reccomend me a cover crop to put in after spring barley for 2 months before direct drilling winter beans into. TIA
Would they mix well with Phacelia?Oats
We can normally set the combine up pretty well not to get a carpet!Spring barley volunteers?
Yes phalecia goes well with oatsWould they mix well with Phacelia?
Please could the collective minds reccomend me a cover crop to put in after spring barley for 2 months before direct drilling winter beans into. TIA
Grazing rye might work like this, if you got it sowed early enough it could get mature enough to be killed by crimping at drilling time; a bit awkward if not. You could spray it off in the winter and still have a weed suppressing mulch around the beans.Teff grass...dies in winter and can be a good blanket for weed suppression. You can bale or graze etc if you don't want it to go to seed.
Basically a copy of how they grow organic soyabean in USA with the cereal rye...rolling it then sowing...vids on youtube about this.
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Grazing rye might work like this, if you got it sowed early enough it could get mature enough to be killed by crimping at drilling time; a bit awkward if not. You could spray it off in the winter and still have a weed suppressing mulch around the beans.
I planted part of a feild with black oats between WW and winter beans last autumn, with the primary intention of BG surpression, but it doesn't seem to have done much. Thre was quite a bit of BG in the oats when drilling the beans so it all got glyposate pre em and in the worst patches quite a bit more BG has grown since. The oats were planted later than ideal though last autumn and took a while to get going in dryer stubble.
I am considering a patch of yellow trefoil cover crop (drilled ASAP after harvest) with the intention of drilling the beans into it and keeping the trefoil as a companion crop. I have been no till drilling beans at the sort of seed rate we used to plough them in at, but unless we kill them with pre em the establishment has been consistently good and they end up very thick. I want to reduce the plant pop by lowering the rate (and upping the tgw a bit when seed cleaning), but also still maintain maximum ground cover for weed supression which the trefoil may provide.
So many variables last year the beans were thick and had a poor flower to pod ratio and low yeild. This year the beans are about as thick, but far more flowers turned have into pods. Harvest will tell if all those pods actually match the yeild we have had from thinner bean crops.
you need to have a good N scanvenger & a good woody plant before beans.
On field trip in Bavaria:
- minute mycoryza in cover cropt & maize
tiny nodulation in beans
wonder why in a high N input & high >24ppm PO5 system?
They have a 3 mi. € 10 year EU Project on Mycoryza interaction in various cover crop species.
Prediction is: no mycoryza will be found.
Phacelia was in autumn the poorest developed crop there. Wonder why.
York-Th.
p.s. I'm deeply hurt by the wasted money, our tax money & the 2 phd thesis written
I planted part of a feild with black oats between WW and winter beans last autumn, with the primary intention of BG surpression, but it doesn't seem to have done much. Thre was quite a bit of BG in the oats when drilling the beans so it all got glyposate pre em and in the worst patches quite a bit more BG has grown since. The oats were planted later than ideal though last autumn and took a while to get going in dryer stubble.
I am considering a patch of yellow trefoil cover crop (drilled ASAP after harvest) with the intention of drilling the beans into it and keeping the trefoil as a companion crop. I have been no till drilling beans at the sort of seed rate we used to plough them in at, but unless we kill them with pre em the establishment has been consistently good and they end up very thick. I want to reduce the plant pop by lowering the rate (and upping the tgw a bit when seed cleaning), but also still maintain maximum ground cover for weed supression which the trefoil may provide.
So many variables last year the beans were thick and had a poor flower to pod ratio and low yeild. This year the beans are about as thick, but far more flowers turned have into pods. Harvest will tell if all those pods actually match the yeild we have had from thinner bean crops.
I tried a couple of 1ha patches of trefoil and white clover mix before beans, but I didn't manage to get it established. By the time straw was cleared and I got the drill to the field, it was really too late.Did you try the yellow trefoil?
Got any pictures?I tried this for the first time this autumn. I used a buckwheat, Japanese reed millet and giant sorghum mix. The millet and sorghum grow pretty rapidly in the summer heat and don’t need a lot of moisture, it gave good coverage pretty quickly. And buckwheat seems to grow well wherever and whenever it’s put in.