Covid 19.. Milk price impact?

[dinderleat]

For some reason farmers are obsessed with trying to control the market. The only way you can prosper, is by creating brands people trust, manufacturing milk in to value added products and pooling resources to reduce processing costs. Or you sell direct and accept the price you are given. But who ever you supply you can not buck the market.

 

[som farmer]

over the years, buyers have done a brilliant job of keeping farmers dis-united., but, farmers have to realise, ag products are a commodity, and are traded globally, so price, is affected, by a greater, or lesser degree, by supply and demand.

 

[Jamer]

over the years, buyers have done a brilliant job of keeping farmers dis-united., but, farmers have to realise, ag products are a commodity, and are traded globally, so price, is affected, by a greater, or lesser degree, by supply and demand.

Wouldn't argue with any of that, however I do think the nature of dairy contracts whereby all your output is contracted to one buyer stifles the market. Milk buyers using the market to their own ends is galling to those who are stuck in a single supply contract.

Yew Tree's forward option is a step in the right direction to hedging milk prices. It's volatility that is the killer.

 

[endeavour]

and it would appear that two willing bodies entered into a contract to mediate such volatility to mutual advantage all A1 until the processor/broker decides to unilateraly bin contract with little or no warning the work of corporate detritus adopting bully boy tactics, No other excuse accepted....

 

[betweenthelines]

What's the point of a contract that the buyer can cancel or disregard whenever he wants?

 

[betweenthelines]

For some reason farmers are obsessed with trying to control the market. The only way you can prosper, is by creating brands people trust, manufacturing milk in to value added products and pooling resources to reduce processing costs. Or you sell direct and accept the price you are given. But who ever you supply you can not buck the market.

Farmers want to control the market because they are the primary producers and it's normal for the primary producer to have some control over the marketing of their products.

Car manufacturers don't make cars then hope a few dealers make them an offer and then let the dealers set the retail prices.

Who controls petrol prices, the oil companies or the filling stations.

 

[dinderleat]

Farmers want to control the market because they are the primary producers and it's normal for the primary producer to have some control over the marketing of their products.

Car manufacturers don't make cars then hope a few dealers make them an offer and then let the dealers set the retail prices.

Who controls petrol prices, the oil companies or the filling stations.

Your comparing apples and oranges commodity products with short shelf life and cars are slightly different. But I do understand where your coming from. But car manufacturers have also created a brand people want to buy not just an engine and four wheels.

 

[lazy farmer]

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Farmers want to control the market because they are the primary producers and it's normal for the primary producer to have some control over the marketing of their products.

Car manufacturers don't make cars then hope a few dealers make them an offer and then let the dealers set the retail prices.
Who controls petrol prices, the oil companies or the filling stations.

neither.

 

[PREES]

How do you see this test, track & control system impacting on your farms? Just a bit concerned that one relief miller making contact with someone who reports symptoms could write off our entire workforce!!

 

[Princess Pooper]

How do you see this test, track & control system impacting on your farms? Just a bit concerned that one relief miller making contact with someone who reports symptoms could write off our entire workforce!!

But only the relief milker has to isolate... unless they then go onto develop symptoms and test positive, in which case the rest of your workers who have been in close proximity would then have to isolate. But that's better than spreading it, surely?

 

[som farmer]

how else do you deal with something nasty, creeping around, and cannot be seen ? Bugger my 'civil' rights, if I've been near it, I want to be tested/treated asap. I cannot understand people complaining its 'intruding into our human rights', they either don't believe c19 is circulating, they will never catch it, or have something to hide, similarly in Europe there are demo's against 'forced' vaccinations v c19. I want to live, as long as I can, without being to much of a burden on my family, and I am prepared to 'sacrifice' my 'rights', in some things, to do so.

 

[PREES]

But only the relief milker has to isolate... unless they then go onto develop symptoms and test positive, in which case the rest of your workers who have been in close proximity would then have to isolate. But that's better than spreading it, surely?

I'm not against it, just wondering how people are arranging their staff rotas to minimise the potential impact!

 

[farmer on a bike]

As long as staff, stay over 1.5m apart unless it is for less than 15mins then they will not need to isolate. The key has to be to try and ensure that staff stick to the social distancing.

 

[Cowabunga]

I'm not against it, just wondering how people are arranging their staff rotas to minimise the potential impact!

You must be assuming that the farms are large enough to have a staff rota. In most cases there is less staff than is sensible on farms, because of the 'efficiency drive'.

 

[som farmer]

our AI chap was talking about the 'app' today, he'd decided to name all the other AI operators, if he had to self isolate !