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Pasty

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Covid: Italy to require all workers to show 'green pass' certificate​

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School staff check for green pass certificates at a school in Turin, Italy, 13 September 2021
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image captionSchool staff in Italy are already required to show a so-called "green pass"
Italy is to make it compulsory for all workers to have a Covid "green pass" - proof of vaccination, a negative test or recovery from the virus.

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England once again going in a different direction to most of the world, what could possibly go wrong?
I don't have much faith in Boris but let's hope the UK can avoid this surveillance state nonsense which was, of course, the plan all along.
 

BrianV

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I don't have much faith in Boris but let's hope the UK can avoid this surveillance state nonsense which was, of course, the plan all along.
I have an awful feeling whilst the rest of the EU carry on as normal the UK will shut down yet again simply because of hospitals becoming over whelmed before too long. This time nightingale hospitals aren't there to help out just in case.
 

Pasty

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I have an awful feeling whilst the rest of the EU carry on as normal the UK will shut down yet again simply because of hospitals becoming over whelmed before too long. This time nightingale hospitals aren't there to help out just in case.
Hospitals have been overwhelmed since the NHS began. Every winter. 48 HOURS TO SAVE THE NHS etc. But yet they are putting in a another layer of management, each on a quarter of a million quid a year.
 

essex man

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Friend of mine went to take his mentally handicapped brother out for the day. The home that looks after him wouldn't allow him out because he would be with my friend who is unvaccinated.
 

Charlie Gill

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No, I don't think so and he is now in dispute with them, but is hard to be in dispute with the people caring for your brother obviously.
For the record, he isn't unvaccinated because of anything I have said.
I thought all restrictions were lifted. Regardless, he should have been given the opportunity for a test.
 

Charlie Gill

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you think he should be asked to take a covid test in order to see his brother?(he wasn't going to enter the facility)

I'm not making a judgement here, I'm just saying I've not heard of vaccination being the only route.
Just looked it up out of interest, testing is the 2nd bullet point:

No visit out of a care home during a pandemic is without risk, but there are steps we can take to reduce those risks. Care homes should discuss and agree arrangements with residents, residents’ named visitors, or their essential care giver in advance.

Decisions about steps to mitigate the risk of an individual resident’s visits out of a care home should be taken with the resident’s assessed needs and circumstances considered. The care home should balance the benefits of visits out of the care home against a consideration of the risks to others in the home, where necessary.

It is important that the resident and where appropriate their family are involved in discussions throughout this process. If undertaking a visit out is not possible without self-isolation on return because of the risk to the individual and other residents and staff, care providers should communicate the reasons for this decision clearly to the resident and where appropriate their family.

Individual risk assessments should take into account:

  • the vaccination status of residents, visitors and staff, including the extent of second vaccinations
  • any testing of those accompanying the resident or who they intend to meet on their visit out
  • levels of infection in the community
  • variants of concern in the community
  • where the resident is going on a visit and what activities they will take part in while on the visit
  • the mode of transport that residents intend to use




Was there a prior discussion?
 

essex man

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you think he should be asked to take a covid test in order to see his brother?
Just looked it up out of interest, testing is the 2nd bullet point:

No visit out of a care home during a pandemic is without risk, but there are steps we can take to reduce those risks. Care homes should discuss and agree arrangements with residents, residents’ named visitors, or their essential care giver in advance.

Decisions about steps to mitigate the risk of an individual resident’s visits out of a care home should be taken with the resident’s assessed needs and circumstances considered. The care home should balance the benefits of visits out of the care home against a consideration of the risks to others in the home, where necessary.

It is important that the resident and where appropriate their family are involved in discussions throughout this process. If undertaking a visit out is not possible without self-isolation on return because of the risk to the individual and other residents and staff, care providers should communicate the reasons for this decision clearly to the resident and where appropriate their family.

Individual risk assessments should take into account:

  • the vaccination status of residents, visitors and staff, including the extent of second vaccinations
  • any testing of those accompanying the resident or who they intend to meet on their visit out
  • levels of infection in the community
  • variants of concern in the community
  • where the resident is going on a visit and what activities they will take part in while on the visit
  • the mode of transport that residents intend to use




Was there a prior discussion?
Just looked it up out of interest, testing is the 2nd bullet point:

No visit out of a care home during a pandemic is without risk, but there are steps we can take to reduce those risks. Care homes should discuss and agree arrangements with residents, residents’ named visitors, or their essential care giver in advance.

Decisions about steps to mitigate the risk of an individual resident’s visits out of a care home should be taken with the resident’s assessed needs and circumstances considered. The care home should balance the benefits of visits out of the care home against a consideration of the risks to others in the home, where necessary.

It is important that the resident and where appropriate their family are involved in discussions throughout this process. If undertaking a visit out is not possible without self-isolation on return because of the risk to the individual and other residents and staff, care providers should communicate the reasons for this decision clearly to the resident and where appropriate their family.

Individual risk assessments should take into account:

  • the vaccination status of residents, visitors and staff, including the extent of second vaccinations
  • any testing of those accompanying the resident or who they intend to meet on their visit out
  • levels of infection in the community
  • variants of concern in the community
  • where the resident is going on a visit and what activities they will take part in while on the visit
  • the mode of transport that residents intend to use




Was there a prior discussion?
I asked if you thought he should have to have test, not whether some little Hitler had some kind of cover to demand it.
 

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