Covid Vaccine Roll out.

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Highland Mule

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Cant have it both ways! To use the factor of 2 in your calculation the vaccine needs to be the cause of the factor of 2 otherwise it's not relevant.
Not a question of having it both ways - it's simple statistics. Twice as many red have the virus, but four times as many blue are hospitalised. That tells us that blue is eight times more likely than red to hospitalised if they get the virus.
 

Mouser

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Not a question of having it both ways - it's simple statistics. Twice as many red have the virus, but four times as many blue are hospitalised. That tells us that blue is eight times more likely than red to hospitalised if they get the virus.
Nope. It's a rate per infected case so number of cases not relevant. But let's just move on.
 

czechmate

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One thing that has baffled me these last weeks... why does Peru have a death rate of double the next worst in the world?
Are they the only ones recording numbers honestly?🤷‍♂️. Are they an incredibly unhealthy population?. Well, I find it bizarre 🤔

Mind, thankfully, they seem to be on top of it at the moment 👍
 
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BrianV

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Lots of pre budget announcements of large amounts of money for various things, not so long ago leaks pre budget would be followed by mounting anger & investigations, is this yet another government u turn or just another cynical attempt to deflect from growing dismal covid news
 

JCMaloney

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Think you need to broaden your source material.
Why do we not vaccinate people who are ill?

Source material is fine thanks, unlike your random screenshot from December 2020 which was right at the start of the vaccine rollout.

We do vaccinate people who are "ill" it just depends (clinical decision) on what they are ill with.
 

essex man

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Source material is fine thanks, unlike your random screenshot from December 2020 which was right at the start of the vaccine rollout.

We do vaccinate people who are "ill" it just depends (clinical decision) on what they are ill with.
If someone has a temporary illness e.g. respiratory virus then they are advisedto delay vaccination currently and previously.
This is because the immune system is weakened/compromised immediately after vaccination.
It's not a big deal, but is a good reason to not vaccinate in January.
 
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essex man

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Even if you are not ill, you are more susceptible to serious illness from all viruses include covid immediately post vaccination until the immune system has dealt with the vaccine and generated immunity.
Hence the numbers in original Pfizer trial, also explains cases spiking in response to vaccination increases.
It's just a necessary/unavoidable part of the equation.
Although can be mitigated by vaccine timing.
 

JCMaloney

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Even if you are not ill, you are more susceptible to serious illness from all viruses include covid immediately post vaccination until the immune system has dealt with the vaccine and generated immunity.
Hence the numbers in original Pfizer trial, also explains cases spiking in response to vaccination increases.
It's just a necessary/unavoidable part of the equation.
Although can be mitigated by vaccine timing.

Yes, I`ll agree with susceptibility post vaccination but that also applies to any vaccine and any illness.
I wouldn`t hold much credence to some of the screenshots your adding as they are tipping into the conspiracy world.

The reality is the vaccines have been trialled, they work, they reduce chronic illness and are ONE OF the things we can do to mitigate until we reach the point we just live with it like flu.
 

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