Covid Vaccine Roll out.

oval

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Big pharma must love people like you , you actually believe everyone is at serious risk from covid in all honesty I think we are going to have to reprogram a lot of people they are psychologically damaged/brainwashed by a couple years of propaganda . Even a man who has pushed this from the start to make an absolute fortune has had to start admitting it’s fatality rate is equivalent to the flu and mainly effects the elderly
 

essex man

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Problem is we know everyone doesn’t need a vaccine to be safe
Yes, even bill gates admitting it's not an issue for healthy people now.
Careful bill! That was considered disinformation only a short time ago.
Clearly the vast majority are going to continue their lives unaffected by this virus whether vaccinated or not.
The lingering effects of the needless panic, scaremongering and overreaction will be with all of us for many years however.
 
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essex man

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primmiemoo

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The trouble with kusi is kind of ~
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primmiemoo

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Gates has predicted that the virus will become more like a seasonal flu if it continues on a similar course to that of omicron ~ which has always been the case. There remains a threat of new variants from areas of the world which haven't had access to vaccines.

He's also tested pos for covid ~
 

essex man

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Gates has predicted that the virus will become more like a seasonal flu if it continues on a similar course to that of omicron ~ which has always been the case. There remains a threat of new variants from areas of the world which haven't had access to vaccines.

He's also tested pos for covid ~
Never seen kusi before, just came up on the search I did for you.
Bill has taken two years to acknowledge something closer to the truth, though still pretending it wasn't clear at the start.
 

primmiemoo

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Never seen kusi before, just came up on the search I did for you.
Bill has taken two years to acknowledge something closer to the truth, though still pretending it wasn't clear at the start.
Nobody was pretending. Covid is still a novel virus. We still don't know who exactly fits the "fit and heathy" category when it comes to catching the virus, or who will find themselves afflicted with long covid. We do now have effective antivirals for those whose immune response is compromised, and effective vaccines that reduce risk of serious illness ~ well, those of us who are fortunate enough to live in the first world, that is.
 

Raider112

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Nobody was pretending. Covid is still a novel virus. We still don't know who exactly fits the "fit and heathy" category when it comes to catching the virus, or who will find themselves afflicted with long covid. We do now have effective antivirals for those whose immune response is compromised, and effective vaccines that reduce risk of serious illness ~ well, those of us who are fortunate enough to live in the first world, that is.
What we have now isn't too dangerous and we have to live with it, with vaccines to help obviously. My wife has it now and has mild symptoms, so she should really as she's had 5 vaccinations.
Anybody who thought it was harmless at the start with the original version and no vaccines would be better saying nothing than confirming their stupidity. Did I read somewhere that 2 million have died in Europe alone?
 

essex man

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Nobody was pretending. Covid is still a novel virus. We still don't know who exactly fits the "fit and heathy" category when it comes to catching the virus, or who will find themselves afflicted with long covid. We do now have effective antivirals for those whose immune response is compromised, and effective vaccines that reduce risk of serious illness ~ well, those of us who are fortunate enough to live in the first world, that is.
It's been clear from the start, he's saying it now and pretending that he didn't know at the beginning.
I knew because the numbers were clear.
Bill is surely not worse at maths than me, I mean I'm reasonably good at it but he is Bill Gates!
 

Mouser

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Gotta love it, the virus is novel so not fully understood so let's take a not fully understood vaccine that doesn't stop us getting the virus because it might help with something not fully understood.
 

primmiemoo

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Gotta love it, the virus is novel so not fully understood so let's take a not fully understood vaccine that doesn't stop us getting the virus because it might help with something not fully understood.
The vaccines are understood. Both types are, although there are still antis at work muddying and misinforming, and making it difficult for those who've gone down antivax rabbit holes to find a way out. Activities from disruptive bot generators have declined ~ which is no bad thing.
 

Mouser

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The vaccines are understood. Both types are, although there are still antis at work muddying and misinforming, and making it difficult for those who've gone down antivax rabbit holes to find a way out. Activities from disruptive bot generators have declined ~ which is no bad thing.
I said fully understood, do you believe they are fully understood? Adverse events would suggest otherwise, they are information, not misinformation.
 

primmiemoo

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I said fully understood, do you believe they are fully understood? Adverse events would suggest otherwise, they are information, not misinformation.
They are fully understood. All vaccines and medicines, Life in General, have adverse effects. Perceived adverse effects of covid vaccines were investigated, continue to be investigated, and not one to date has been outside the range of known adverse effects of vaccines.
 

Mouser

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So when France wouldn't recommend astra vaccine for over 65s and UK thought under 40s maybe shouldn't have it that was based on full understanding. J and j losing FDA recommendation after a year of use also fully understood. If side effects are understood they should tell people if they're going to suffer from them or not then the decision would be easy.
 

Raider112

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So when France wouldn't recommend astra vaccine for over 65s and UK thought under 40s maybe shouldn't have it that was based on full understanding. J and j losing FDA recommendation after a year of use also fully understood. If side effects are understood they should tell people if they're going to suffer from them or not then the decision would be easy.
Every medicine has side effects, no doctor can tell us if we will be the one to be affected by them, or have I read your post wrongly?
 

primmiemoo

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Devon
So when France wouldn't recommend astra vaccine for over 65s and UK thought under 40s maybe shouldn't have it that was based on full understanding. J and j losing FDA recommendation after a year of use also fully understood. If side effects are understood they should tell people if they're going to suffer from them or not then the decision would be easy.
France paid for its error over AZ, didn't it? The UK was overcautious about the under 40s, and dragged its heels dreadfully by delaying the ok for pregnant women to receive the vaccines. That doesn't mean that there wasn't understanding ~ just caution. With pregnant women, that caution could be seen as a scandal, imv.

The whole world would love to know who will have which side effects, if any. For the vast majority of people ~ absolutely vast majority, in the case of covid vaccines ~ feeling a bit grotty after a jab is just one of those things that happens when the immune system confronts a vaccine, and learns how to make defences against the virus (or bacterium) represented in the vaccine. Significant side effects are rare, but they are understood. From the beginning of the vaccine roll out, they were stated in vaccine information sheets which were available for reading online, as well as given to people on accepting their offer of vaccination.
 

oval

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Yes the one and only Bill Gates the man who has influenced and profited massively from the vaccine roll out in his own words it’s one of the best investments I’ve ever made , now has to admit it has a fatality rate of flu and mainly effects the elderly , this was pointed out to our government in the first few months of the pandemic but ignored and even billy boy gates can’t keep the sham going now
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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