Covid Vaccine Roll out.

[oval]

Also it now seems that the fourth vaccine [booster] is only effective for a maximum of six weeks against severe illness and isn’t anything like as effective as natural immunity from prior infection.

The greatest, but not the only current risk, seems to be from ‘long Covid’ which should not be underestimated as, for those that get it, it can be very debilitating. A lady was here not an hour ago that had Covid between Christmas and New Year and she was quite poorly until the end of March and is still far from right even today.

Agree with this in the most part only point I’ll add is long term fatigue etc from viruses is not new it’s just the powers that be are using it as another part of project fear , but we are also seeing long term fatigue or other problems being caused by the vax as explained by the bbc reporter in the vid I posted this won’t get nearly as much airtime as long covid will tho as it doesn’t suit the narrative I wonder how many long covid cases are actually vax side effects as reported by the nice lady from the bbc

 

[Cowabunga]

Agree with this in the most part only point I’ll add is long term fatigue etc from viruses is not new it’s just the powers that be are using it as another part of project fear , but we are also seeing long term fatigue or other problems being caused by the vax as explained by the bbc reporter in the vid I posted this won’t get nearly as much airtime as long covid will tho as it doesn’t suit the narrative I wonder how many long covid cases are actually vax side effects as reported by the nice lady from the bbc

I personally know of four people who had side effects lasting up to a month after vaccination, but no longer and nothing serious.
I am also very aware of long term issues from virus, as my daughter has suffered from it for the last fifteen years and although much better these days, still has no stamina and suffers fatigue for a day or two after doing anything strenuous. She had glandular fever while in school, caused by Epstein-Barr virus which translated into long term ME. The latest hypothesis from scientists is that Epstein-Barr is also an essential precursor to multiple sclerosis in a small number of those infected. Hardly anyone that does not have EB gets MS.

 

[oval]

I personally know of four people who had side effects lasting up to a month after vaccination, but no longer and nothing serious.
I am also very aware of long term issues from virus, as my daughter has suffered from it for the last fifteen years and although much better these days, still has no stamina and suffers fatigue for a day or two after doing anything strenuous. She had glandular fever while in school, caused by Epstein-Barr virus which translated into long term ME. The latest hypothesis from scientists is that Epstein-Barr is also an essential precursor to multiple sclerosis in a small number of those infected. Hardly anyone that does not have EB gets MS.

Sorry to here about your daughter and it’s an example of how precious not just life but health is and its from what I’ve seen happening to a close friend of my wife after covid vax that I don’t except fully tested and safe the tactics that were used to coerce / force this vax on people especially younger and fit healthy age groups who were at little risk I find sinister to damage anyone by forcing this vax on them is not acceptable to me and what i find just as bad is that the damaged in a lot of cases look to be being ignored .

 

[primmiemoo]

I have read Jules Serkin on and off (the BBC Radio Kent presenter in the video posted by @oval in post no. 4,969) since she was pointed out by my friend whose true diagnosis came about from her own reaction to a covid vaccine.

Jules Serkin has been vocal in social media. She is having a really rough time with what reads like ME/CFS. From her reports, she considers that her immune system overreacted to a small, measured dose of AZ vaccine. It doesn't bear thinking of what an encouter with the variant of covid that was dominant when she was vaccinated might have done to her, or worse, a more virulent variant. Her story has been covered in printed and broadcast media ~ albeit not in the guns blazing manner she might wish for.

Effects of covid vaccination on women's health is discussed on the BBC. It's revisited quite regularly. Woman's Hour has covered it in the last two years, also talking about women and ME/CFS in the context of long covid. Women aren't just small men. Our health needs are different, so it is important analyse all medication in a female context. It might be a useful idea for BBC and ITV to interview her in order to help a wider audience understand how her weakness and current situation appears to be being manipulated/permitted to drift towards an antivax agenda.

The GBN Interviewer in the video, although clearly sympathetic to Mr Serkin, made very sure she dissed her employer, didn't he. Her citing Jeremy Whine of all people as somehow indicative of a cross-media collusion to hush up aftereffects of having a vaccination is played right into GBN's Beeb-bashing agenda. What is GBN other than media, despite his attempts to elide it?

I do sympathise with her, and wish her a speedy recovery.

 

[oval]

I have read Jules Serkin on and off (the BBC Radio Kent presenter in the video posted by @oval in post no. 4,969) since she was pointed out by my friend whose true diagnosis came about from her own reaction to a covid vaccine.

Jules Serkin has been vocal in social media. She is having a really rough time with what reads like ME/CFS. From her reports, she considers that her immune system overreacted to a small, measured dose of AZ vaccine. It doesn't bear thinking of what an encouter with the variant of covid that was dominant when she was vaccinated might have done to her, or worse, a more virulent variant. Her story has been covered in printed and broadcast media ~ albeit not in the guns blazing manner she might wish for.

Effects of covid vaccination on women's health is discussed on the BBC. It's revisited quite regularly. Woman's Hour has covered it in the last two years, also talking about women and ME/CFS in the context of long covid. Women aren't just small men. Our health needs are different, so it is important analyse all medication in a female context. It might be a useful idea for BBC and ITV to interview her in order to help a wider audience understand how her weakness and current situation appears to be being manipulated/permitted to drift towards an antivax agenda.

The GBN Interviewer in the video, although clearly sympathetic to Mr Serkin, made very sure she dissed her employer, didn't he. Her citing Jeremy Whine of all people as somehow indicative of a cross-media collusion to hush up aftereffects of having a vaccination is played right into GBN's Beeb-bashing agenda. What is GBN other than media, despite his attempts to elide it?

I do sympathise with her, and wish her a speedy recovery.

Don’t have them interview just Jules remember she has set up a group which is growing of people who appear damaged there is much to learn so the same mistakes / tragedies don’t keep happening

 

[oval]

And once they have interviewed Jules because trying to silence people with concerns about covid vaccines is such a priority , they could then move onto looking at why people in the younger age groups with many years in front of them are dying as a result of being coerced or forced to take the vax to be able to live a normal life .

 

[primmiemoo]

Also it now seems that the fourth vaccine [booster] is only effective for a maximum of six weeks against severe illness and isn’t anything like as effective as natural immunity from prior infection

The booster helps to boost immunity by both a short-term reminder, and by aiding memory cells. These memory cells provide long-term cover by holding templates. Those invited for a fourth vaccination are in particular groups, in age and/or health status, and need that extra support.

From the end of last year (checked over by someone who's far more scientifically fluent than I am), covid vaccines give good longer term protection though memory cells ~

Increased memory B cell potency and breadth after a SARS-CoV-2 mRNA boost - Nature

A third dose of an mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 results in an expanded B cell repertoire that produces antibodies with increased potency and breadth.

www.nature.com

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.abl5344

From what I've read so far elsewhere, it still holds that "natural" immunity is safest for those whose system is already primed by vaccination. After vaccination, which trains recognition and forms defence readiness, an encouter with the full virus allows the already primed immune system to form nuance of recognition, and make more precise defence against every part of the virus.

 

[primmiemoo]

Don’t have them interview just Jules remember she has set up a group which is growing of people who appear damaged there is much to learn so the same mistakes / tragedies don’t keep happening

I know about her group. It's always good to have support when unwell, especially when rarity is involved. I don't know if she's affiliated with groups that also support ME and CFS sufferers, or whether experiences are shared within medical studies. There's a scientific saying "Causality doesn't equal causation", which can be overlooked when an individual has experienced a negative event they didn't think would happen to them, so investigations will be painstaking (unintentional pun, sorry).

 

[primmiemoo]

And once they have interviewed Jules because trying to silence people with concerns about covid vaccines is such a priority , they could then move onto looking at why people in the younger age groups with many years in front of them are dying as a result of being coerced or forced to take the vax to be able to live a normal life .

Sorry, but that feels as though GBN wants there to be a massive conspiracy. Has it carried out journalistic investigation to learn there is continued investigation into deaths in young age groups? Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome is more common than though, for example. It's been known that young people are susceptible to other heart problems ~ and (something positive) experience in diagnosis of, and treatments for them during the pandemic will reduce deaths from them.

 

[oval]

Sorry, but that feels as though GBN wants there to be a massive conspiracy. Has it carried out journalistic investigation to learn there is continued investigation into deaths in young age groups? Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome is more common than though, for example. It's been known that young people are susceptible to other heart problems ~ and (something positive) experience in diagnosis of, and treatments for them during the pandemic will reduce deaths from them.

If it was fully tested safe and as you have said fully understood they would know who to jag and who not to jag .
And if we are to believe 2000 deaths on the yellow card reporting system at what point do we say it’s to many I seem to remember with the failed swine flu vax it was around 150 when it was halted.

 

[essex man]

Regulatory approval of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine for COVID-19

Information for healthcare professionals and the public about the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

www.gov.uk

 

[primmiemoo]

If it was fully tested safe and as you have said fully understood they would know who to jag and who not to jag .
And if we are to believe 2000 deaths on the yellow card reporting system at what point do we say it’s to many I seem to remember with the failed swine flu vax it was around 150 when it was halted.

Oh dear, that isn't how immunity, science, or medicine, or indeed anything involving nature works. It really isn't.

 

[primmiemoo]

Regulatory approval of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine for COVID-19

Information for healthcare professionals and the public about the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

www.gov.uk

Thank you for the link to the information sheet for Comirnaty 30 vaccine. Nothing hidden. No conspiracies. I bet you have longer paperwork with many of the products you use as a matter of course.

 

[oval]

Oh dear, that isn't how immunity, science, or medicine, or indeed anything involving nature works. It really isn't.

Really you have said the vaccines are fully understood safe and effective in how they work you are happy to tell us that virtually everyone should take them even when the governments own scientists say over 80% of the population will only have mild symptoms and there are a growing number of people injured or dead from taking them.
Or are you referring to the last time the powers that be tried to force a pandemic on the population rushed a vaccine out then had to hastily withdraw that vaccine as the adverse events kicked in .

 

[essex man]

Thank you for the link to the information sheet for Comirnaty 30 vaccine. Nothing hidden. No conspiracies. I bet you have longer paperwork with many of the products you use as a matter of course.

It's an update

 

[primmiemoo]

It's an update

Indeed.

 

[primmiemoo]

Really you have said the vaccines are fully understood safe and effective in how they work you are happy to tell us that virtually everyone should take them even when the governments own scientists say over 80% of the population will only have mild symptoms and there are a growing number of people injured or dead from taking them.
Or are you referring to the last time the powers that be tried to force a pandemic on the population rushed a vaccine out then had to hastily withdraw that vaccine as the adverse events kicked in .

You are venturing into those rabbit holes too often. Please do read and watch the scientists who know about vaccines, and in particular, covid vaccines.

 

[oval]

You are venturing into those rabbit holes too often. Please do read and watch the scientists who know about vaccines, and in particular, covid vaccines.

So the attempt to make the swine flu into a pandemic and force a vaccine was that real or not

 

[oval]

Are the deaths on the reporting scheme real or not

 

[primmiemoo]

So the attempt to make the swine flu into a pandemic and force a vaccine was that real or not

Not a clue, but I think it takes a conspiracy theorist to imagine engineered pandemics with forced mass vaccination.