Covid Vaccine Roll out.

[essex man]

Did we agree with that? I thought all the figures said that the deaths and hospitalisations were a lot higher percentage wise in the unvaccinated. You were asked to provide reputable facts to back up your claims, should be easy if what you say is correct.

The figures for deaths have been posted many times.
They are in the ONS covid vaccine surveillance reports, they have been linked to on here loads of times

 

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[Raider112]

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Are you serious? I asked you to provide evidence that as many vaccinated were dying percentage wise as unvaccinated and you've proved the opposite.
Read the notes at the bottom of each graph.

 

[essex man]

Are you serious? I asked you to provide evidence that as many vaccinated were dying percentage wise as unvaccinated and you've proved the opposite.
Read the notes at the bottom of each graph.

Are you serious? I asked you to provide evidence that as many vaccinated were dying percentage wise as unvaccinated and you've proved the opposite.
Read the notes at the bottom of each graph.

I was replying to you questioning my figure of 9 out 10 deaths are vaccinated people

 

[essex man]

Did we agree with that? I thought all the figures said that the deaths and hospitalisations were a lot higher percentage wise in the unvaccinated. You were asked to provide reputable facts to back up your claims, should be easy if what you say is correct.

I didn't mention percentages, just that 90% of people dying are vaccinated, maybe you should reread my post

 

[essex man]

Think we agreed that most people (90%)dying are vaccinated....presumably you don't think the vaccine worked for them, yet I guess you would blame the other 10% on the fact they were unvaccinated?

This post, see figures provided

 

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Vaccinologist Sarah Gilbert: ‘We need to be better prepared for a new pandemic’

The woman who co-developed the AstraZeneca vaccine on reassuring doubters, her new book and having a baby penguin named after her

www.theguardian.com

 

[Raider112]

I didn't mention percentages, just that 90% of people dying are vaccinated, maybe you should reread my post

My question to you was about percentages of deaths, with and without the vaccine, nothing else. I have no idea on the numbers, they are irrelevant to the point of whether the vaccines had helped. See post 5,598. You didn't like the answer you would have to give so you posted something completely unconnected. I didn't question your figures on numbers, I merely said "did we agree with that?"
I thought Boris was good at avoiding questions he didn't like but you can turn things on their head in a way that even he would struggle with.
So to repeat, do you have any REPUTABLE figures to back up your claims that deaths in the vaccinated are in line percentage wise with the unvaccinated? To be clear, we all know that there would be more deaths in the vaccinated because the vast majority were vaccinated.
If not fair enough, it's no big deal, we all know the answer, you would get more respect by keeping out of it than doing your usual twisting and deflecting.

 

[essex man]

My question to you was about percentages of deaths, with and without the vaccine, nothing else. I have no idea on the numbers, they are irrelevant to the point of whether the vaccines had helped. See post 5,598. You didn't like the answer you would have to give so you posted something completely unconnected. I didn't question your figures on numbers, I merely said "did we agree with that?"
I thought Boris was good at avoiding questions he didn't like but you can turn things on their head in a way that even he would struggle with.
So to repeat, do you have any REPUTABLE figures to back up your claims that deaths in the vaccinated are in line percentage wise with the unvaccinated? To be clear, we all know that there would be more deaths in the vaccinated because the vast majority were vaccinated.
If not fair enough, it's no big deal, we all know the answer, you would get more respect by keeping out of it than doing your usual twisting and deflecting.

So you are now agreeing that 90% of those dying are vaccinated, I have supplied the figures that show this...thanks

 

[essex man]

My question to you was about percentages of deaths, with and without the vaccine, nothing else. I have no idea on the numbers, they are irrelevant to the point of whether the vaccines had helped. See post 5,598. You didn't like the answer you would have to give so you posted something completely unconnected. I didn't question your figures on numbers, I merely said "did we agree with that?"
I thought Boris was good at avoiding questions he didn't like but you can turn things on their head in a way that even he would struggle with.
So to repeat, do you have any REPUTABLE figures to back up your claims that deaths in the vaccinated are in line percentage wise with the unvaccinated? To be clear, we all know that there would be more deaths in the vaccinated because the vast majority were vaccinated.
If not fair enough, it's no big deal, we all know the answer, you would get more respect by keeping out of it than doing your usual twisting and deflecting.

The numbers that you "have no idea about" are relevant...

 

[essex man]

You may be right in some of that but if your child brought it back from school, gave it to you, and in turn you passed it onto a parent who ended up in hospital or worse you would feel guilty about it, you wouldn't be human if you weren't.
Mt wife is fully vaccinated, her brother isn't, he has many health issues and lives alone, he is probably even more into denial than Essex man but he won't hear of my wife staying clear. She says it's his responsibility as he chooses not to protect himself but when it happens she will naturally feel guilty if she gave it to him.

So he should have the vaccine to stop someone else feeling guilty.
But he could then die because most of the dying are vaccinated...but that would be ok because someone wouldn't feel guilty about passing it on to someone vaccinated... interesting

 

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They need to take their guilt out on the right people corrupt useless politicians who aloud money to be removed from tax payers and used to fund experiments which were banned in their own countries there are countless old people who rely on younger people for their existence more so as our older population increases the only people to blame for any old persons death from this virus are the people funding the research and the idiots in the labs that let it escape don’t let the real culprits of the hook by pretending some carer was responsible for old peoples deaths .

My main point on this now is the people that caused this problem want you to feel the guilt for the vulnerable that pass the more you do that the less the spotlight turns on them and they get away with it , look at the cases rising now out of season relatively young healthy people need to stop getting vaccinated if we want to get closer to herd immunity and we need to stop calling these jabs vaccines they are not .

 

[Raider112]

So you are now agreeing that 90% of those dying are vaccinated, I have supplied the figures that show this...thanks

I have no idea on the number so I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. Why are you trying to misquote me all the time

 

[Raider112]

The numbers that you "have no idea about" are relevant...

They might be relevant in some cases but they have no relevance to the point I'm making. You know what I'm asking you, you won't answer because it doesn't fit with your agenda, fair enough if that's how you want to play it but why the hell do you persist with all this nonsense? You're making yourself look daft.

 

[essex man]

They might be relevant in some cases but they have no relevance to the point I'm making. You know what I'm asking you, you won't answer because it doesn't fit with your agenda, fair enough if that's how you want to play it but why the hell do you persist with all this nonsense? You're making yourself look daft.

I don't know what you are asking me, I know that people are hospitalised unnecessarily if they are unvaccinated because everyone believes the vaccine works.
I know that the vast majority of deaths are among the vaccinated.
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I have no idea on the number so I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. Why are you trying to misquote me all the time

I have supplied the numbers as requested.

 

[Raider112]

I don't know what you are asking me, I know that people are hospitalised unnecessarily if they are unvaccinated because everyone believes the vaccine works.
I know that the vast majority of deaths are among the vaccinated.
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I have supplied the numbers as requested.

Not sure whether you are doing it deliberately or you just don't grasp the English language very well but for both our sakes let's drop it eh? You aren't going to answer for whatever reason so we'll move on.