Covid Vaccine Roll out.

[Vader]

With this letter by Jens Spahn, the vaccine disaster in the EU begann

It shows how Merkel and von der Leyen urged Jens Spahn, Federal Minister of Health, to hand the mandate over to the EU

m.bild.de

 

[le bon paysan]

With this letter by Jens Spahn, the vaccine disaster in the EU begann

It shows how Merkel and von der Leyen urged Jens Spahn, Federal Minister of Health, to hand the mandate over to the EU

m.bild.de

Germany's AFD/ Le Pen supporting equivalent of the Daily Express. Springer group.
www.wsws.org
Germany's right-wing Bild newspaper agitates against China
Apr 23, 2020 — The accusation that the Chinese government's policies are to blame for the coronavirus pandemic and the economic damage it has caused is now being raised by governments and media outlets around

 

[le bon paysan]

Some good news tonight, world wide 213 million doses have been delivered. And Ghana have received 600,000 doses from Covax to make a start with more to be delivered this week.

 

[Vader]

Germany's AFD/ Le Pen supporting equivalent of the Daily Express. Springer group.
View attachment 943456www.wsws.org
Germany's right-wing Bild newspaper agitates against China
Apr 23, 2020 — The accusation that the Chinese government's policies are to blame for the coronavirus pandemic and the economic damage it has caused is now being raised by governments and media outlets around

Your socialist website site will call anything ring Wing that's not socialist...
You saying that any paper not left wing posts false news all the time ..?

 

[Pasty]

Your socialist website site will call anything ring Wing that's not socialist...
You saying that any paper not left wing posts false news all the time ..?

I think it's actually far right conspiracy theorists you will be labelled with. There is no right of centre or even just centre and more. We are all fascists and racist bigots, not sensible people who don't believe in a system that has always failed and created poverty and suffering and continues to do so. But if you spend too much time in education, listening to people who have only ever been in education, who know little or nothing and then come out thinking you are a superior being, what do you expect?

 

[czechmate]

I think it's actually far right conspiracy theorists you will be labelled with. There is no right of centre or even just centre and more. We are all fascists and racist bigots, not sensible people who don't believe in a system that has always failed and created poverty and suffering and continues to do so. But if you spend too much time in education, listening to people who have only ever been in education, who know little or nothing and then come out thinking you are a superior being, what do you expect?

How long, is “too long” in education, in your opinion?
I sometimes wonder if folk should be allowed to leave school and go to work at around 12 again

but for sure, I think this obligatory stay at “school” untill your 18 is madness

 

[Pasty]

How long, is “too long” in education, in your opinion?
I sometimes wonder if folk should be allowed to leave school and go to work at around 12 again

I think the problem is that academia is placed above all things practical and it suits very few to carry on down that route when it will do them little good as it's not linked to anything they want their life to be. Say you had a child who had a passion for engineering and saw something like the Navy as a good way to get into that way of life, paid and supported but they are persuaded by the other parent to just hang on in mainstream education so that the benefits kept rolling in. That's the way our current system works.

 

[czechmate]

I think the problem is that academia is placed above all things practical and it suits very few to carry on down that route when it will do them little good as it's not linked to anything they want their life to be. Say you had a child who had a passion for engineering and saw something like the Navy as a good way to get into that way of life, paid and supported but they are persuaded by the other parent to just hang on in mainstream education so that the benefits kept rolling in. That's the way our current system works.

it’s good for massaging the unemployed figure of course

 

[upnortheast]

I think the problem is that academia is placed above all things practical and it suits very few to carry on down that route when it will do them little good as it's not linked to anything they want their life to be. Say you had a child who had a passion for engineering and saw something like the Navy as a good way to get into that way of life, paid and supported but they are persuaded by the other parent to just hang on in mainstream education so that the benefits kept rolling in. That's the way our current system works.

I think education is an industry out of control. From the age of 10 kids are pushed to think they have to stay at school, do A levels then go to uni. to do a degree ( any degree will do it seems ) You would not believe the range of degrees I find working in coffee shops.. Nothing wrong with working in coffee shops, but after 3 years at uni & a £50k student loan ?.
Now I accept that some profesions do require a Uni education, but many of the kids who are pushed into the "must get a degree " idea would be far better directed to learn a "trade"
All the sparkies, joiners, plasterers & plumbers I know seem to be awash with work & are all earning good money

 

[le bon paysan]

Your socialist website site will call anything ring Wing that's not socialist...
You saying that any paper not left wing posts false news all the time ..?

No, there are lots of left wing and right wing media. I try and read a range of them . I find France 24 very middle of the road and they report all points. They've been very good on the Indian farmers strike, Boca Haram in the Sahel, Myanmar, Fruit theft in southern Africa etc. There's a world out there , not just the ever narrowing UK view.
Sure the EU should get criticised, but it needs to be constructive, as more comes out about the broken vaccine contracts , the commissions side becomes clearer. It's become very clear that the vaccine makers gave their best case production estimates , rather than an average view. This is not the EUs fault.
The UK press is dreadful, printing what has been proved lies. All ramped up to make everything EU = bad and everything uk= good. It's never black and white but varying shades of grey.
Much of the problem being that people, who are dismayed at what's become clear, have to justify their decision . Which in hindsight was the wrong one, even though it was made with the best of intentions. It's called the law of unintended consequences!

 

[bobk]

No, there are lots of left wing and right wing media. I try and read a range of them . I find France 24 very middle of the road and they report all points. They've been very good on the Indian farmers strike, Boca Haram in the Sahel, Myanmar, Fruit theft in southern Africa etc. There's a world out there , not just the ever narrowing UK view.
Sure the EU should get criticised, but it needs to be constructive, as more comes out about the broken vaccine contracts , the commissions side becomes clearer. It's become very clear that the vaccine makers gave their best case production estimates , rather than an average view. This is not the EUs fault.
The UK press is dreadful, printing what has been proved lies. All ramped up to make everything EU = bad and everything uk= good. It's never black and white but varying shades of grey.
Much of the problem being that people, who are dismayed at what's become clear, have to justify their decision . Which in hindsight was the wrong one, even though it was made with the best of intentions. It's called the law of unintended consequences!

You can't say that , come back in 2 years .
We're not going to extricate ourselves after 45 years in a month

 

[Vader]

No, there are lots of left wing and right wing media. I try and read a range of them . I find France 24 very middle of the road and they report all points. They've been very good on the Indian farmers strike, Boca Haram in the Sahel, Myanmar, Fruit theft in southern Africa etc. There's a world out there , not just the ever narrowing UK view.
Sure the EU should get criticised, but it needs to be constructive, as more comes out about the broken vaccine contracts , the commissions side becomes clearer. It's become very clear that the vaccine makers gave their best case production estimates , rather than an average view. This is not the EUs fault.
The UK press is dreadful, printing what has been proved lies. All ramped up to make everything EU = bad and everything uk= good. It's never black and white but varying shades of grey.
Much of the problem being that people, who are dismayed at what's become clear, have to justify their decision . Which in hindsight was the wrong one, even though it was made with the best of intentions. It's called the law of unintended consequences!

Can not belive you even belive the bollox you write..

 

[le bon paysan]

Can not belive you even belive the bollox you write..

SYFSM!
At least I can spell ( most of the time)

 

[4course]

I think the problem is that academia is placed above all things practical and it suits very few to carry on down that route when it will do them little good as it's not linked to anything they want their life to be. Say you had a child who had a passion for engineering and saw something like the Navy as a good way to get into that way of life, paid and supported but they are persuaded by the other parent to just hang on in mainstream education so that the benefits kept rolling in. That's the way our current system works.

A couple of problems as I see it is that for the last generation or two those that are teaching have never seriously done anything other than go to school /uni/t training ( A lot of my teachers had mostly been at war or it had seriously affected their life ). Then all practical jobs and those that used to be apprenticed are or have been discouraged. since blair said everyone should have a uni degree, yet go onto any industrial estate and see which businesses have the most activity going on and count the number of vans driving to a job with dave the plumber/electrician etc written on them .(took me nearly a fortnight to get an electrician to go look at a house). With the drive towards bringing in cheaper than can be produced here goods there really are only 2 options that I would be pushing youngsters towards either work for the government in some form or get a trade all other jobs seem as if the could be gone in a click.
also just think of the money that has been and is still to be spent on covid what a hive of industry we could have had if only a small proportion of that had been spent on manufacturing, skill development, over the years rather than shutting industry down and forcing it abroad

 

[Raider112]

No, there are lots of left wing and right wing media. I try and read a range of them . I find France 24 very middle of the road and they report all points. They've been very good on the Indian farmers strike, Boca Haram in the Sahel, Myanmar, Fruit theft in southern Africa etc. There's a world out there , not just the ever narrowing UK view.
Sure the EU should get criticised, but it needs to be constructive, as more comes out about the broken vaccine contracts , the commissions side becomes clearer. It's become very clear that the vaccine makers gave their best case production estimates , rather than an average view. This is not the EUs fault.
The UK press is dreadful, printing what has been proved lies. All ramped up to make everything EU = bad and everything uk= good. It's never black and white but varying shades of grey.
Much of the problem being that people, who are dismayed at what's become clear, have to justify their decision . Which in hindsight was the wrong one, even though it was made with the best of intentions. It's called the law of unintended consequences!

"There's a world out there, not just the ever narrowing UK view" Why do you even need to write that? is that not a bit bigoted or just stereotyping?
Then you tell us "it's never black and white but varying shades of grey"
You can't have it both ways.

 

[le bon paysan]

"There's a world out there, not just the ever narrowing UK view" Why do you even need to write that?

Honestly, it's like watching a loved one self harm!
Have a look at the UK media it's all uk great and the EU is not . Even when the facts come out they print and broadcast lies. Xenophobic or what.
Take George Eustice repeating continuously the EU changed the rules on bi-valve molluscs to be spiteful. The truth is the UK lobbied for a tightening of the rules in 2008 and wrote the Third country rules on seafood for the EU. Then voted to be a Third country!
FFS
Seriously? Stereotyping! Come on!

 

[Raider112]

Honestly, it's like watching a loved one self harm!
Have a look at the UK media it's all uk great and the EU is not . Even when the facts come out they print and broadcast lies. Xenophobic or what.
Take George Eustice repeating continuously the EU changed the rules on bi-valve molluscs to be spiteful. The truth is the UK lobbied for a tightening of the rules in 2008 and wrote the Third country rules on seafood for the EU. Then voted to be a Third country!
FFS
Seriously? Stereotyping! Come on!

Our main broadcaster is called the BBC, google them if you've never heard of them.

 

[le bon paysan]

Our main broadcaster is called the BBC, google them if you've never heard of them.

WTF!

 

[yellow belly]

500000 more 1st vac yesterday
by tonight the uk will be near to 20 million 1st dose vaccinated
by the end of March 33million or more

 

[jendan]

500000 more 1st vac yesterday
by tonight the uk will be near to 20 million 1st dose vaccinated
by the end of March 33million or more

Got mine this afternoon.The Tizer one.