Covid Vaccine Roll out.

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Exactly that's the point!!
I'm not called Essex, you're not called highland.
You don't need me to explain further, think you've worked it out

I’m not asking your name though, I’m asking if you’re giving the forum members medical advice from a position of medical or scientific understanding and knowledge or one of social media gleaned ignorance - is it fair to assume the latter?
 

Trutti

Member
I am feeling a little sorry for you again here.
Feel free to carry on assuming what you like.
I don’t like to assume anything. I’d like to know if you have any experience, in any field, to support any of your statements. It’s a simple request that you should be delighted to answer. I do have a certain sympathy with some of your views, but you must accept that by not answering that simple question, it negates a whole lot of your views that you express as statements of fact. This is real life, with people’s health and lives at risk, I do hope you can realise the damage you may be doing.
 

Ncap

Member
Ahh, and you, it's just the familiar lack of argument/reason and resort to name calling.
Keep going..
Having semi-interestedly followed some of this thread from the sidelines, I think Highland Mule's repeated question, '
asking if you’re giving the forum members medical advice from a position of medical or scientific understanding and knowledge or one of social media gleaned ignorance - is it fair to assume the latter?' is one that warrants an answer as otherwise it does look deflective.
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
I am feeling a little sorry for you again here.
Feel free to carry on assuming what you like.
Come on,answer the question! What medical or scientific understanding and knowledge do you have? Forum members who read this thread have been reading your drivel posts for weeks now. I,and am sure many others would like to know where you get your information from.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
uk-scotland-57693637
As this article explains we are about to find out that this long covid is going to become far more of a problem than the government has let on, people who refuse to have the vaccine because of their perceived risks have to weigh up the possible consequences if they subsequently catch it & then find that the illness will not go away.
 

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
I don’t like to assume anything. I’d like to know if you have any experience, in any field, to support any of your statements. It’s a simple request that you should be delighted to answer. I do have a certain sympathy with some of your views, but you must accept that by not answering that simple question, it negates a whole lot of your views that you express as statements of fact. This is real life, with people’s health and lives at risk, I do hope you can realise the damage you may be doing.

It's quite simple, I am writing stuff down, some people agree with it, some don't.
The ones that don't, keep running into trouble arguing the government line, partly because it's someone else's and not their own and also because it's nonsense.
Because of this, they sling mud rather than argue, I take it as a compliment.

On this day last year there were 800 cases, today 21000, many amongst those vaccinated
 

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
Come on,answer the question! What medical or scientific understanding and knowledge do you have? Forum members who read this thread have been reading your drivel posts for weeks now. I,and am sure many others would like to know where you get your information from.
Feel free to not read them.
If the content is so upsetting to you that might be the best course of action.
 

Trutti

Member
It's quite simple, I am writing stuff down, some people agree with it, some don't.
The ones that don't, keep running into trouble arguing the government line, partly because it's someone else's and not their own and also because it's nonsense.
Because of this, they sling mud rather than argue, I take it as a compliment.

On this day last year there were 800 cases, today 21000, many amongst those vaccinated
Can anyone honestly say this is what they expected of this novel type of genetic modification drug?
That really is quite staggering, I am quite shocked that you think it is an “argument “. You have used a lot of words to say that you do not have any experience in any of the fields that you make statements about….you have lost all credibility. Worse, you are supporting and promoting a premise that may well be causing harm to people’s lives and health, have a think about that. You do not know.
Your last paragraph shows how little you have actually researched the subject. You may well be correct in some of your concerns but as I said, you have lost all credibility.
 

essex man

Member
Location
colchester
That really is quite staggering, I am quite shocked that you think it is an “argument “. You have used a lot of words to say that you do not have any experience in any of the fields that you make statements about….you have lost all credibility. Worse, you are supporting and promoting a premise that may well be causing harm to people’s lives and health, have a think about that. You do not know.
Your last paragraph shows how little you have actually researched the subject. You may well be correct in some of your concerns but as I said, you have lost all credibility.

Really, well if you want to talk about my last sentence, could you tell me which part you disagree with?
As I have previously divulged I do discuss my ideas pretty much on a daily basis with a former advisor to the government on health, someone who left a highly paid role at a major drug company, took a massive pay cut and went to advise the government on drug procurement.

He had the bonus element of his pay cut for being "too honest to ministers"
He had reports he had written changed for political expediency and his signature left at the bottom.
Tbc the reports being changed led to extra deaths in the health service.

For these last two he felt obliged to resign and enter the whistle blowing procedure.

Having watched my oldest friend go through all this and knowing his credentials in terms of PhDs etc it would be strange for me not to run ideas past him.
The things I write down here are my own thoughts on what we have gone through and what we should do next.
Though it is possible having him concur with them gives me more confidence to say them.
 

Trutti

Member
Really, well if you want to talk about my last sentence, could you tell me which part you disagree with?
As I have previously divulged I do discuss my ideas pretty much on a daily basis with a former advisor to the government on health, someone who left a highly paid role at a major drug company, took a massive pay cut and went to advise the government on drug procurement.

He had the bonus element of his pay cut for being "too honest to ministers"
He had reports he had written changed for political expediency and his signature left at the bottom.
Tbc the reports being changed led to extra deaths in the health service.

For these last two he felt obliged to resign and enter the whistle blowing procedure.

Having watched my oldest friend go through all this and knowing his credentials in terms of PhDs etc it would be strange for me not to run ideas past him.
The things I write down here are my own thoughts on what we have gone through and what we should do next.
Though it is possible having him concur with them gives me more confidence to say them.
As I asked you before, give your sources otherwise its just not credible and you come across as a fool.
As to the rest, you have again admitted that you have no experience in any of the fields you make statements about….none.
You are promoting a dangerous premise without any evidence, putting people’s lives and health in danger. Please have a think about that.
 

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