Cow manure to gardeners/allotments

[puppet]

I had a heap which was turning into compost at 2 years. Rocket fuel for veg.
I asked £1 for an old plastic 25kg feed bag, so around £40 per ton. Some filled it themselves.
Garden centre would be £3-5 for similar bag.

 

[deleted user 436632456]

Sorry to hijack this thread......

I charge a local council owned and run petting farm type attraction so they can tip their muck once a week on our existing muck heap.

They deliver it themselves.

When I checked with the EA on the phone I was told this is fine as it's used as fertilizer and a soil improver.

The only paperwork I do is a quarterly invoice to them that's states it's a fee for tipping.muxk for fertiliser use. What additional paperwork do I need?

Some sort of waste transfer note? I was told by the lady I spoke to it was not waste?

As it's a agricultural holding to another agricultural holding and you are getting the beneficial use of it then there should be no issues apart from if their muck started to cause a nuisance to the local area i.e. noise, smell or eyesight. Just ensure that you are following all FYM storage guidance/regulations.
Good practise for agricultural wastes state that records must be kept, You have invoices as an import record which is sufficient, As it's ag to ag then I wouldn't do a WTN unless specifically told otherwise.

In NI as part of NVZ/NAP/Cross compliance all slurry/manure exports have to be recorded and submitted to the regulatory bodies.

 

[Netherfield]

Two comical moments when delivering to houses

First one had a dwarf wall between it and next door, tipped it up and flattened the wall, neighbour got a good share of it.

Second one commented 'There's a bit more than I expected, I think I should have got the car out of the garage first the wife's supposed to be going to her mothers in half an hour.

 

[curlietailz]

And don’t forget to tell them they can only put it on the soil in the spring
And no digging the allotment over in the autumn and leaving the soil bare all winter
That’s our rules
Should be same for allotments

 

[betweenthelines]

I had a heap which was turning into compost at 2 years. Rocket fuel for veg.
I asked £1 for an old plastic 25kg feed bag, so around £40 per ton. Some filled it themselves.
Garden centre would be £3-5 for similar bag.

That's disgusting. Why did you let them?

 

[puppet]

That's disgusting. Why did you let them?

The garden centre toilets were shut

 

[onthehoof]

I used to do this when I was 16, used to sell loads of the stuff, £10 a load for 3T trailer, trundling down the A14 on my Fordson major , no cab no indicators no flashing light

 

[matthew]

I cannot remember for sure but I'm certain I have seen warnings on product labels regarding sprayed material ending up in mulches or in manures before. Clopyralid is known to linger in some situations hence restrictions on what you can spray it on.

Mmm. A lot of commercial bagged compost has a base of 'green waste'. Or 'green manure' as they call it.

Friend had a nightmare of a situation last year when she used a very well known brand in which to grow her g/house tomatoes. It stunted the lot. Curly leaves and little growth. My stuff in pots or baskets hardly grew at all.

We put it down to possibly golf course material or similar, previously sprayed with ???? - a herbicide to knock back everything but grass.

 

[Courier]

Hi all, have had a local allotment want to buy some trailer loads of muck off me. It’s a 10 ton trailer and was wondering how much to charge for a load especially with fert prices as they are this year. Won’t use it ourselves so will just sit there until next year for the neighbours to use. TIA

£30 for the muck - - £100 min for the delivery. All + VAT of course.

Or you could give it to him and accept an equivalent donation to the Teudam Foundation which as a charity would probably be devoid of any commercial liabilities ....!

 

[Bogweevil]

And don’t forget to tell them they can only put it on the soil in the spring
And no digging the allotment over in the autumn and leaving the soil bare all winter
That’s our rules
Should be same for allotments

Actually amateurs tend not to use fresh manure but compost it which makes good sense as pathogens will be diminished considerably, a very important point where produce is often eaten raw and where pets and children will come into frequent contact with manures and mulches.

Once thoroughly composted, nutrients are in insoluble microbial forms and can be spread or incorporated in winter, in situations where land management rules do not prohibit it, with lower pollution risk.

I wonder if this is something that farmers might do more often to address manure spreading rules: http://adlib.everysite.co.uk/adlib/defra/content.aspx?id=000HK277ZX.0HAB05DGQPM6JX7