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"Cow Pat"

Discussion in 'Holistic Farming' started by Cece, Aug 15, 2018.

  1. Cece

    Cece New Member

    I've never called it that but I don't what to call it apart from cowshit...

    Anyway,

    With good biology how long should one last in a field?
     
  2. awkward

    awkward Member

    Location:
    kerry ireland
    I've seen it washed in with a shower but it was very liquid from soft grass to lasting 10 months on a dry sand dune but loaded with fiber .but normal here would be about 16-20 days fiber dependant
     
  3. Cece

    Cece New Member

    Ok good to know.

    They say wormers etc slow down the process so looking to hear people's opinions on this
     
  4. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    Wormers can lower your soil bug population. Like dung beetles. This can greatly slow down it's dispersal.

    I was actually going to do a test this summer and time how long mine took to disappear. Haven't done that yet, maybe I should take some flags out and see. Although knowing the cows they'll eat the flags :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Cece

    Cece New Member

    I'd been keen to see how a trial goes..
     
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  6. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    Staked out a couple fresh outta the cows. Pasture they’re locked in is a sacrifice pasture so not sure if that’s going to help or hinder anything. Shouldn’t rain on them since it hasn’t been raining here :LOL:

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    Also brought one over to within the chicken’s range. It splattered a bit when I dropped it but should still give an idea.

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  7. awkward

    awkward Member

    Location:
    kerry ireland
    how has decomposition and incorporation progressed
     
  8. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    I'll try and remember to take my phone out with me for photos tomorrow or Wednesday. The two in the field have done ok, one caught the attention of the crows and then got stepped on so it might be a bit farther ahead. The one near the chickens was ignored in favour of the leftovers from a steer butchered nearby so it's probably the least dissolved at this point.

    Have gotten about an inch of rain over the last week which has helped things as they were getting quite a dry crust on top and turning into real chips. However I think things were hindered by lack of bug activity due to nighttime temperatures dropping. I'll have to remember to do this again next summer when it's the middle of the season!
     
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  9. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    Ok here they are.

    #1 is the one the crows liked and got stepped on.

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    #2
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    #3 which the chickens didn’t bother at all.
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  10. Chasingmytail

    Chasingmytail Member

    Location:
    Newport, SE Wales
    thats why on an organic system you are not allowed to use mectin types of wormers as these ruin bug life and have effects on the dung bettle. Not just that but the overall damage done to soil life and run off into water courses. In Joel Salatin farming you would run the eggmobile - chickens behind the cows to both benefit the hens with the bugs and help sanitate the ground as the hens love to scratch though the pats. Seen it partly done here the chickens are good at clearing the lumps up.
     
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  11. awkward

    awkward Member

    Location:
    kerry ireland
    the crows do that here chasing the barley in the dung
     
  12. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    No grain in their poop. They aren’t fed it. Crows are after the bugs.
     
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