Criticising the Prophet Mohammed is now illegal.

Discussion in 'Brexit & Politics' started by Daniel, Oct 27, 2018.

  1. capfits

    capfits Member

    @wanton dwarf
    Begs the question why you are seemingly concerned by one minority religion in the UK when as a nation state we have an institutionalised religion within government.
    So why are you so concerned by Muslims in the UK or anywhere else for that matter?
     
  2. mo!

    mo! Member

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    Anyone cutting off someone's hand in this country (UK) would be guilty of GBH and be prosecuted as such.
     
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  3. The Agrarian

    The Agrarian Member

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    Religion within government? Oh seriously. A handful of bishops in the lord's doesn't make a significant difference to the general course of lawmaking here.
     
  4. Daniel

    Daniel Member

    Especially given that the Bishops primary allegiance is to the Gospel of Socialism.
     
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  5. capfits

    capfits Member

    Yep 26 of them.
    But, for a bit of balance should there be 26 automatic places for Catholics,Hindus, Sheik, Muslims or Church of Scotland?
    And is it not the case that the head of state has to be the head of the Church of England?
    In Scotland ministers of religion are the only non elected members of education authorities.

    So as @wanton dwarf was suggesting that Muslims were trying to build a foundation to lead to UK law being affected by Sharia, is this not what already happens with the Anglican church already holding a more engrained position?
     
  6. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    Because we've had 1000s of people die through Islamic terrorism.

    We've had 1000s of UK muslims leave the UK to fight for an horrific Islamic death cult, those ISIS fighters brought back to the UK.

    20,000+ people exterminated in a genocide in mass graves.

    20,000+ Islamic extremists on the watch list.

    10,000+ Islamic extremists who've been put in jail and a very large number are coming out.

    250,000 young white girls raped for 40 years and nothing done by a PC Liberal establishment.

    Anyone who has highlighted the Islamic problem persecuted.

    2 FAKE wars based on a falsehood. Iraq & Afghanistan.

    Libya destroyed and now open air slave markets.

    Syria destroyed.

    Iran's nuclear ambitions.

    Yemen being destroyed by a Saudi Arabian led coalition.

    Saudi State funded mosques.

    Millions of migrants moving to Europe.

    Do I need to go on ?

    The most worrying part is the Liberal establishment in the UK who have tacit agreement for all of this in fact part of it they've actively caused or hidden.
     
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  7. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    There are 61 ethnic minority Lords in the UK. Half maybe Muslims ? Not worth mentioning really. I'd also point out that Christian leaders are on record as being pro Muslim and have their own issues and history with children.

    I don't why you are going to extremes to mention Christianity .. not as if those leaders demonstrate balance normal behaviour at any time.
     
  8. baabaa

    baabaa Member

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  9. Brilliant;
     
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  10. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    So where does that leave Labour, Conservative and Liberals courting Muslim votes ?

    The shoe fits .. those that want the power will have it at ANY cost.

    Unfortunately for some, people are awakening to the fact that most of todays horrific violent problems have been advocated and caused by polices created in the EU, Westminster, Washington, Geroge Soros etc.

    Normal people do not invite millions of undocumented people into a country .. normal people PAY for passports, VISA's and provide bank statements, contracts etc so when they move they are known NOT to be a threat.

    QED.
     
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  11. Danllan

    Danllan Member

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    Since the advent of modern science and the scientific method, religion as a whole has been manifestly absurd; Islam is absurd, irreconcilably backward and cruelly dangerous.

    Muslims are, by their own religious rules, bound to adhere to the 'law of the land' that they live in and in England and Wales no weight is carried by Sharia 'courts'. However, where Sharia does not conflict with the law of the land, there is nothing to stop two parties from entering into a civil contract on that - Sharia - basis for whatever reason.

    We must not kowtow to anyone who wants us to curtail our freedoms for their beliefs.
     
  12. Yacker

    Yacker Member

    Because we've had 1000s of people die through Islamic terrorism. In the UK? Islamic terrorism is a long way behind the IRA/UDF in the body count.

    We've had 1000s of UK muslims leave the UK to fight for an horrific Islamic death cult, those ISIS fighters brought back to the UK. They have a choice and we lock em up when they get back.

    20,000+ people exterminated in agenocide in mass graves. Pray tell where?

    20,000+ Islamic extremists on the watch list. Probably and an equal amount of far right nutters

    10,000+ Islamic extremists who've been put in jail and a very large number are coming out. You serve your time then go on the watch list

    250,000 young white girls raped for 40 years and nothing done by a PC Liberal establishment. Data for this please or are you just guessing, the Catholic Church is still topping the charts in this particular specialty.

    Anyone who has highlighted the Islamic problem persecuted. Evidence?

    2 FAKE wars based on a falsehood. Iraq & Afghanistan. Absolutely agree with you

    Libya destroyed and now open air slave markets. Absolutely agree with you

    Syria destroyed.
    Absolutely agree with you

    Iran's nuclear ambitions. Okay for Israel though?


    Yemen being destroyed by a Saudi Arabian led coalition. Absolutely agree with you

    Saudi State funded mosques. Absolutely agree with you

    Millions of migrants moving to Europe caused by our foriegn policy not by them
     
  13. Yacker

    Yacker Member

    Because we've had 1000s of people die through Irish terrorism.

    We've had 1000s of UK communists leave the UK to fight for Spanish communist those fighters brought back to the UK.

    20,000+ people exterminated in agenocide in mass graves in Bosnia by right wing nationlists

    20,000+ Irish Nationlists on the watch list.

    10,000+ Irish Nationlists who've been put in jail and a very large number arecoming out.

    250,000 young people raped for 100 of years by the Catholic Church and nothing done by a PC Vatican.

    Anyone who has highlighted the Catholic church problem persecuted.

    2 FAKE wars based on a falsehood. Iraq & Afghanistan.

    Libya destroyed and now open air slave markets.

    Syria destroyed.

    Russia's nuclear ambitions.

    Yemen being destroyed by a SaudiArabian led coalition.

    Saudi State funded mosques.

    Millions of migrants moving to Europe.

    All depends on how you spin it...
     
  14. Yacker

    Yacker Member

    130 ish people have been killed in the UK since 2000 due to terrorism acts

    215 people killed in knife attacks in 2017 (not terrorism related)

    So if extrapolate that out as a flat average statistic for the next ten years -

    72 people will die due to terrorism (because governments dont like voters getting blown up)
    2150 will die due to knife crime (mainly because few people give a sh!t about black kids who are unlikely to vote)

    Its a shame when the numbers don't support the propaganda.....
     
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  15. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    The first major Islamic terrorist incident in the UK was 7/2007

    Knife crime is linked to drugs, immigration - human trafficking, foreign culture - gang culture to be specific and poor policing.

    All political parties have done their best to make London and most other cities cesspits - best places for it.
     
  16. Yacker

    Yacker Member

    Ok i will probably regret this...

    The first terrorist incdent of 2007 only compounds the statistic.

    Knife crime is linked to indigenous black gang culture and drugs, not immigration, human trafficking, "foreign culture" ?

    You sir are a racist pure and simple. Beyond that you make sh!t up and talk bollocks.

    Last post ....

    I am sure you boil in your own pee.

    ;)
     
  17. Daniel

    Daniel Member

  18. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    Basic maths means YOU are massaging the facts.

    Knife crime is linked to drugs and gang crime. I didn't mention a race because drugs are not limited to any particular race at all.

    Gang culture was imported predominately from the USA, Africa, Middle East, Central and Southern America.

    Human trafficking is more profittable than selling drugs .. therefore criminal gangs are there as well as in modern slavery.

    Is heroin or coke grown in the UK ?

    I note however YOU did link knife crime to black people. Which people be specific as all black people are not selling drugs or fighting with knives.
     
  19. wanton dwarf

    wanton dwarf Member


    I cannot understand your point.

    When the IRA was bombing Birmingham & London .. I was a young teenager. Unable to either comprehend nor influence what possible outcome there could be.

    I'm now middle aged and realise if I was this age then I would have done something about it.

    I'm not going to take YOUR excuses from the past to live with the hell of the present.

    That means getting rid of your mentality which personally I find horriffic.
     
  20. The Agrarian

    The Agrarian Member

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    Oooooh. Now thats only a matter of opinion. The basic teachings of Jesus remain as relevant and revolutionary in this selfish and corrupt world than they were 2000 years ago. For all man's scientific advances, he has learnt very little.
     
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