Cross Shaft Adjuster

Cordiale

Member
I know there are some brilliant engineers on here, so I would like to ask what is the best method of making a cross shaft adjuster and what would you recommend to make it from. Look forward to your answers because it has been very quite on here for a couple of days. Thanks Cordiale
 

Tonym

Member
Location
Shropshire
I have done several and used 20mm allthread as the screw but it is not ideal as you could really do with a coarse thread to speed the winding process but it is cheap and readily available. Using a thrust bearing also helps to make for easy turning.
Each plough is different in frame design which dictates what you can or cannot do to make a sliding cross shaft and without knowledge of a Fiskars plough I an afraid I can offer no advise on how to mount it to the plough.
 

Cordiale

Member
I have done several and used 20mm allthread as the screw but it is not ideal as you could really do with a coarse thread to speed the winding process but it is cheap and readily available. Using a thrust bearing also helps to make for easy turning.
Each plough is different in frame design which dictates what you can or cannot do to make a sliding cross shaft and without knowledge of a Fiskars plough I an afraid I can offer no advise on how to mount it to the plough.
Thank you for your reply Tonym. All thread sounds good to me, as I don't know where I would pick up a coarse threaded piece of metal rod. What I would like to know more about is the thrust bearing you mention, have you any pictures or diagrams of how to arrange things please? Thanks Cordiale
 

Cordiale

Member
Surely a ram Is best as a Fiskars is world style not classic, unless you don't have spools of course
Timo I haven't considered fitting a ram to move it with. I have a hydraulic top link that I have never used, as I don't feel that I want to start having to learn / get used to something else, when I feel more confident in manual adjustments. I know that the Fiskars is considered world style, I think mine was built in 1975. If I were to change the boards to say TCN, YL or something that would qualify for classic class, would it then be eligible? The thing is I bought it in 1984 when there was semi-digger and whole furrow work classes, but it seems things have moved on since then. Is there ever likely to be a class for old world style ploughs that only have manual adjustments?
 

Howard150

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Hope this helps. Basics are there whether you use hydraulics or otherwise
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Mydexta

Member
Location
Dundee/angus
Timo I haven't considered fitting a ram to move it with. I have a hydraulic top link that I have never used, as I don't feel that I want to start having to learn / get used to something else, when I feel more confident in manual adjustments. I know that the Fiskars is considered world style, I think mine was built in 1975. If I were to change the boards to say TCN, YL or something that would qualify for classic class, would it then be eligible? The thing is I bought it in 1984 when there was semi-digger and whole furrow work classes, but it seems things have moved on since then. Is there ever likely to be a class for old world style ploughs that only have manual adjustments?

You will still onLy be eligible for the world style class even if you put tcns on it as the frame is too new for classic
 

Tonym

Member
Location
Shropshire
Classic plough must have been in production before 31st December 1976 but Fiskars, Kverneland Hydrien, Super Hydrien, and Ransomes BonNing are excluded as are YCN, SCN, and UCN bodies I am afraid. Bodies must have been in production before the same date but nowhere in the rule book does it say they must have been available for that plough at the time of manufacture.
 

Roy Stokes

Member
Location
East Shropshire
Timo I haven't considered fitting a ram to move it with. I have a hydraulic top link that I have never used, as I don't feel that I want to start having to learn / get used to something else, when I feel more confident in manual adjustments. I know that the Fiskars is considered world style, I think mine was built in 1975. If I were to change the boards to say TCN, YL or something that would qualify for classic class, would it then be eligible? The thing is I bought it in 1984 when there was semi-digger and whole furrow work classes, but it seems things have moved on since then. Is there ever likely to be a class for old world style ploughs that only have manual adjustments?

David Boyles once asked Ken Chappel if he could alter a Bamford Kverneland frame and fit his TCN bodies to use in the classic class, with both pieces of equipment well within the time frame you would expect the answer to be yes however for reasons Tony explains above Ken said no.
 

Howard150

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Strange indeed!lots of good wee ploughs consigned to storage until the rules are drastically updated

Subtle difference between drastically updated and changed to incorporate different classes. What we need is a class for all these 'Vintage world style bodies'. Leave the classic class alone.
When all's said and done the whole work/ semi digger work apertained to what is now the vintage class rather than the classic.
 

Mydexta

Member
Location
Dundee/angus
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Subtle difference between drastically updated and changed to incorporate different classes. What we need is a class for all these 'Vintage world style bodies'. Leave the classic class alone.
When all's said and done the whole work/ semi digger work apertained to what is now the vintage class rather than the classic.

Rumour has it that we are now allowed bonnings in our classic class.
Not the 97 frame, Just bodies.
 

Howard150

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Location
Yorkshire
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Rumour has it that we are now allowed bonnings in our classic class.
Not the 97 frame, Just bodies.

Bit pointless banning the frame if the bodies are legal. After all it's the bodies that do the work.
I think Scotland has adopted the European classic mantra in that anything produced in the classic era is now allowed.
The ruination of a good class.
 

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