Crystalix to lift lambing%??

Kazak

Member
Normally scan at 1.75 give or take.. ewes get a bolus before rams go in.
Was thinking in putting a couple of cristalix buckets to lift lambing percentage..
Any of you tried it? Any good or bad reports? Is it worth it or a waste of time and money??
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
If they are short of energy, then supplementing it should give you a boost. If ewes are in good condition and are being tupped on decent ryegrass leys, then you're less likely to see a response IMO.

I will be chucking a couple of blocks out to my mobs that are tupped on old (& long) parkland grass at teh start of tupping, but they won't have any after.
 

pgk

Member
Am going to try rumevite blocks as taken on some ropey old tack which hadn't been moan this summer, mix of dry tack, New growth and creeping thistle. Fingers crossed it works. One thing I can say is these ewes have clean bums whilst those on aftermath passing green water with low fec's.
 
Better than nothing - but thats not exactly a glowing endorsement!
200g/h/d 18% ewe nuts does it for me from 1 month pre to one month post tupping. 189% TRUE % this year. NCM ewes x texel.
 

JD-Kid

Member
if only put out at mateing i would say bugger all diffrence if put out a few weeks before and lift in there untill rams removed they might
biggest gains maybe from fixing any nim probs before mateing and makeing sure iodine levels ok to make sure lambs live at birth
know guys in ozzie feeding lupins or faba beans lifting lambing % once again before to get ewes cycleing and also keep feed levels up to make sure lambs are set
trials have shown any gain from flushing can be lost if feeding drops during mateing
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Better than nothing - but thats not exactly a glowing endorsement!
200g/h/d 18% ewe nuts does it for me from 1 month pre to one month post tupping. 189% TRUE % this year. NCM ewes x texel.

That would certainly achieve the same as blocks, at a fraction of the price, but with more work. Blocks are only concentrates after all, with a premium price for the convenience.

Surely going by the name of 'keepitsimple26', you should just throw a few blocks about?:D
 
if only put out at mateing i would say bugger all diffrence if put out a few weeks before and lift in there untill rams removed they might
biggest gains maybe from fixing any nim probs before mateing and makeing sure iodine levels ok to make sure lambs live at birth
know guys in ozzie feeding lupins or faba beans lifting lambing % once again before to get ewes cycleing and also keep feed levels up to make sure lambs are set
trials have shown any gain from flushing can be lost if feeding drops during mateing


These pulse crops not only supply energy, but promotes a hormone effect influencing ovule development in ewes and sperm production in rams.
@JD-Kid is quite correct about when to flush (add energy to increase ewe body weight). It is the flushing effect before the eggs are shed from the ovaries that determines if additional eggs will also be shed. Flushing that commences when the rams join the ewes only influences those ewes that will cycle from about day 8 onwards if the flushing effect (additional ewe body weight gained) is significant.
Some farmers really cock up flushing by putting ewes onto longer pasture with much lower digestibility, resulting in no extra weight gain as the gut throughput is reduced. A high energy supplement may be a viable option if little high quality pasture is not available. Lower quality pasture still makes good maintenance feeding for the post mating period.
If scanning % is high enough to suit the environment without having to flush, that's money staying in the bank. It gets back to animal genetics.
 

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