Cultivation 2022

[serf]

Anyone dragged the old Simba discs out of the nettles? Will they bite or just sit on the shoulders?

They should do the job




If you strap an IBC of water to each corner .....

 

[bobk]

About what? Drought or cabbage root fly?
I like the prospect of a decent rain before drilling it. A shower just chits it and then it burns off without a further top up.
I once went to spray off a field of OSR volunteers, obviously “sown” very early. Needn’t have bothered. Whole lot killed or severely stunted by cabbage root fly. A maggot in every stump.

Neither presumably

 

[DrWazzock]

Neither presumably

Won’t be bought seed then.

 

[bobk]

Won’t be bought seed then.

They never buy seed

 

[DrWazzock]

No, it is not my power Harrow. I own a solo which is mostly used without the legs; a cast ring press; and a set of rolls. Ive a old self propelled sprayer, and a similarly aged loader.

I will trade some soloing for the power harrowing. Contractors sow and cut my crops. I share a solid feet spreader with my daddy - one loads the other spreads.

The sprayer and loader are under review.

Sometimes wonder if the only machine I need is a telephone. New silencer box for the tractor would have paid a contractor to drill the rape.

 

[czechmate]

I would think relying on nature would be pretty hopeless, in past years I have seen a lot of osr irrigated in

 

[casemx 270]

Pulling out the tramlines , then subsoiling it ( doing a lovely job) then I’ve just bought a cheap set of heavy old discs I’ll pull them over it all instead of breaking our better kit , then maybe a rexius twin after .
Sit back and wait for rain and stale seed beds!
thats the plan but I must admit I’m not racing at it , it’s the traction that’s an issue as any slip is wearing , the actual metal wear isn’t as bad as I’d thought as the point is exploding it up so wear after the initial impact is low to other parts ( wings etc)

We are running a stubble cultivator first then a low disturbance subsoiler and rolling it down asap occasionally a pass with the carrier.Its doing a cracking job on a mixture of soils.Then leaving for rain and hopefully stale seedbeds.If It don't rain then won't be drilling anything anyway,Tin hat on remembering everyone to their own.in this world there are no right or wrong answers just what works for you.

 

[casemx 270]

We are not in any hurry to cover the ground just keep moving forward.

 

[DrWazzock]

Formulating a plan. I think what we will do is disc and where OSR is intended we will power Harrow towing roller. Then get the man in with the subsoiler seeder. Our preparatory steps will reduce the risk of his machine blocking with our poorly chopped straw.
Where we intend cereals we will disc, paraplow, power Harrow roll, wait, spray off drill. Where and if the OSR fails we will power Harrow towing roller then drill after spraying off chit.

 

[DrWazzock]

It’s all about optimisation.

 

[casemx 270]

Pulling out the tramlines , then subsoiling it ( doing a lovely job) then I’ve just bought a cheap set of heavy old discs I’ll pull them over it all instead of breaking our better kit , then maybe a rexius twin after .
Sit back and wait for rain and stale seed beds!
thats the plan but I must admit I’m not racing at it , it’s the traction that’s an issue as any slip is wearing , the actual metal wear isn’t as bad as I’d thought as the point is exploding it up so wear after the initial impact is low to other parts ( wings etc)

Used to have a really good set of x pattern disc harrows but like everything else fell out of favour or fashion

 

[robs1]

Hasn't the dry weather and cracks done all the subsoiling for free ?

 

[Lincsman]

Hasn't the dry weather and cracks done all the subsoiling for free ?

Often hear this... no, without moving it the soil will swell up and the cracks will be water tight. the time to subsoil is when its dry, not wet and no cracks.

 

[robs1]

Often here this... no, without moving it the soil will swell up and the cracks will be water tight. the time to subsoil is when its dry, not wet and no cracks.

Yes but there is dry and then really dry, I dont understand why "natural" cracks will become watertight but steel made ones wont,

 

[spikeislander]

You shuffle and roll the lumps around under the surface so they don’t fit back when it comes wet again .
Think a shuffled jigsaw versus a completed one .

 

[casemx 270]

To be honest we have some small clods but in the the top 2 or 3 inches there is plenty of tilth

 

[czechmate]

Hasn't the dry weather and cracks done all the subsoiling for free ?

bizrally my soil here doesnt really crack

 

[robs1]

bizrally my soil here doesnt really crack

Not enough clay?

 

[spikeislander]

Soil type has a lot to do with it , we are mostly heavy clay but odd field is lighter and has less cracking .
it’s the amount it shrinks when dry.
Also you can add a few inches to the depth you are working when it all swells up again .

 

[alomy75]

Often hear this... no, without moving it the soil will swell up and the cracks will be water tight. the time to subsoil is when its dry, not wet and no cracks.

Not if you fill the cracks with tilth/debris from a light surface cultivation. Subsoiling now on land that cracks big enough to put your hand down will make footballs