'Cutting the cloth'

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
How many people going to food banks have fancy Iphones paying £40+ a month for contracts
Have Sky telly paying £40+ a month
Wear NIke trainers??
That's true there are people like that but that doesn't mean everyone with money problems is like that.
On the flip side you could say, 'do you know farmers actually get paid by the government for owning land'. Or maybe, 'have you seen TFF, half the threads are either about how to sign up to the latest scheme to get more handouts, what can I get a grant for or how do I avoid paying too much tax and then complain they make no money'.
That doesn't mean all farmers are like that, just like those that are struggling aren't all workshy layabouts.
The gap between the haves and have nots seems to be getting bigger.
 

toquark

Member
Not necessarily. A lot of inputs have been convincingly sold as essential by the supply industry, which just speeds the hamster wheel sometimes.

I’m all for investing in inputs, as long as they give a positive return. Too many times they lead to a treadmill requiring those inputs to stand still though, with nobody gaining but the suppliers.

I include mart auctioneers in that ‘supply industry’ bracket, who heavily promote on top prices (which earn them most commission), with zero regard for the margin over COP, that being the only thing that keeps farmers in business.
Ok but how can markets ever really know margin or COP? Only the farmer and his accountant will know that.
 

marco

Member
Get rid of the bottom 10%.



I'm not talking about the population like most of you assumed😅 but worst producing cereal land, bottom producing dairy and suckler cows sheep etc. They will consume the most and produce the least. Your output may only drop 5% but costs should reduce by more
 

Dman2

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Location
Durham, UK
Get rid of the bottom 10%.



I'm not talking about the population like most of you assumed😅 but worst producing cereal land, bottom producing dairy and suckler cows sheep etc. They will consume the most and produce the least. Your output may only drop 5% but costs should reduce by more
Think also stop buying yield
Might be getting 5 ton to the acre ( still in old money here)
But doesn`t mean your making more money
 
I include mart auctioneers in that ‘supply industry’ bracket, who heavily promote on top prices (which earn them most commission), with zero regard for the margin over COP, that being the only thing that keeps farmers in business.
I don't see firstly how auctioneers can know anybody's COP and secondly how you know people who get good prices don't have profitable businesses
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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