Dairy farmers quitting the industry in high numbers.

[som farmer]

What’s the idea behind that?

farmers caution, large amounts of sexed used last year.
and a precaution, against a possible change.
and have plenty of hfr calves about.
and can always sell stores to buy cows, if needed.
and can sell a beef calf, and buy decent hfr calves

on room, its perfectly possible to rear hfrs indoors, for yr 1, and yr 2, especially if 24/7

 

[Spear]

It it raises profits who cares about income/turnover, with talk like that you’d make a fine consultant.

Funny as I’ve never used one and have plenty of homebred heifers
Once farms go down a route to the extreme it’s almost always financially impossible to come back. Whether it’s a flying herd or high input/output switching to low input/output or vice versa. Only ones who can easily change are ones that have been running inefficiency in the middle ground.
What good is more profit to a farm that can’t afford to continue as they have no cash flow to pay bills ?

 

[Jamer]

Funny as I’ve never used one and have plenty of homebred heifers
Once farms go down a route to the extreme it’s almost always financially impossible to come back. Whether it’s a flying herd or high input/output switching to low input/output or vice versa. Only ones who can easily change are ones that have been running inefficiency in the middle ground.
What good is more profit to a farm that can’t afford to continue as they have no cash flow to pay bills ?

I don’t buy this one iota. Good operators are good operators - there are plenty that have recognised the need for change due to many different circumstances and successfully made those changes.

 

[som farmer]

I don’t buy this one iota. Good operators are good operators - there are plenty that have recognised the need for change due to many different circumstances and successfully made those changes.

changes happen all the time, mostly outside of our control, but we adapt to them, don't really have an option. And plenty of farmers have changed their system, ayr to block, simple example.
l agree with @Jamer , most can alter/change, it is the inefficient that find it the hardest.

In fact, l think farmers/farming, are one of the most adaptable industries there are, you only have to look back, at all the EU directives, we have coped with, quota's, setaside, surpluses, greening, the list goes on. And then we cope with widely fluctuating prices.

 

[Tim G]

18% coming off 283 to a 70/100 increase

We have 18% pencils delivered in 4t bulk loads, been £309 a ton since last autumn, was told to expect a £100/t increase for May. Text the rep this morning to get a firm price, he replied to say that he was currently in Egypt, which tells me I'm paying too much!

 

[Beef farmer]

YS are cheap currently, buy R1s and R2s and serve to sexed this November. Simple and pain free

 

[In the pit]

If you’ve been a flying herd for a few years then you budget accordingly and take the rough with the smooth

 

[In the pit]

With a lack of rain and limited amounts of fert going out ,cow prices with eventually drop back

 

[Blue.]

P1ssed it down here over the last few days,despite not seeing a single fert sower on my travels grass is in abundance.

 

[ollie989898]

MVF closed Lifton mill for 2 weeks for refurbishment that’s the problem with deliveries. Ordered cake nearly 2 weeks in advance for last Weds. They rang Tuesday night and said needed to reschedule then again on Thursday to rebook. Booked for Friday didn’t turn up, finally half turned up on Saturday.

All they needed to do was get the other mills to run like fudge for a couple of weeks before the closure, stockpile the most popular cakes in a shed somewhere and then load the wagons out of that. It's not rocket science. I've said this for years, they should have bays on site for tipping up raw materials or big batches of finished cake. It would make the whole system a doddle and it is precisely how I used to work.

 

[yin ewe]

P1ssed it down here over the last few days,despite not seeing a single fert sower on my travels grass is in abundance.

Plenty of grass about in May but if less fertiliser is used will there be much about in September?

 

[Blue.]

Plenty of grass about in May but if less fertiliser is used will there be much about in September?

Less grass = less milk = higher milk price.

 

[Wee Willy]

Less grass = less milk = higher milk price.

Less grass=more meal= no profit.
Remember, farmers keep the tank full no matter what!

 

[vantage]

Better had be. MV should have delivered Wednesday, then Thursday, then Friday, did I have enough for the Bank holiday? We’ll come Tuesday, no show today, rang, scheduled for tomorrow, shall ring back, no call, ran out this morning.

Apparently coming Friday, only 10 days late! Good job we’re on top of the grass and it’s dry.

Mole valley are beyond useless, they've tried to integrate three counties into them recently and its caused no end of bloody problems, up until then 3 counties had been ran separately and was brilliant

Yes, MV USED to be good.

 

[In the pit]

Plenty of grass about in May but if less fertiliser is used will there be much about in September?

Will be if you’ve plenty of clover

 

[som farmer]

With a lack of rain and limited amounts of fert going out ,cow prices with eventually drop back

but when ? There's a lot coming on the market.
and not many being culled.
and clover, more is better, quite simply saves you money.

 

[In the pit]

but when ? There's a lot coming on the market.
and not many being culled.
and clover, more is better, quite simply saves you money.

Look on marteye last few days and thought cows were a decent buy
Cow doing 32+ ltrs at 4.77 fat made £1450 and there was quite a lot in that price range for similar cows

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

@Beef farmer thought your neighbours cows were e good buy yesterday.

 

[Beef farmer]

@Beef farmer thought your neighbours cows were e good buy yesterday.

Would have been the best value cows there. Just don't fit the scene in a holstien market

 

[endeavour]

Occasionaly the truth