Dairy / herd manager salary?

[WD Dairy]

What would you expect to pay for a herd / dairy manager for 300 milking, all young stock on farm, AYR. No forage or field responsibility - that’s all sorted for them.
Comes with a house.

Herd / dairy manager because the owner hopes to become hands off so the person ultimately is running all things dairy.

 

[Chae1]

50k

 

[DairyNerd]

I would work out what max earnings you should pay and would definitely include a generous bonus scheme within that if you are going totally hands off.

 

[Tasteless]

40k + house. + bonus schemes.

 

[farmboy]

Depends how “hands off” the owner is hoping to become. Do they just not want to do any of the physical work with the cows or are they going to move countries and never be there. Are there other staff if so who manages them? Who buys/prices inputs etc etc

 

[In the pit]

Something that’s fair to both parties
This thread will be “”how long is a piece of string””
There’s a lot to this
All or some of the milking
Ai” ing
All the calvings ,early morning or late at night
Footrimming in house or contractor
Just a few things
Job sounds like someone to put cups on cows 6 days a week and keep an eye on them

 

[frederick]

What would you expect to pay for a herd / dairy manager for 300 milking, all young stock on farm, AYR. No forage or field responsibility - that’s all sorted for them.
Comes with a house.

Herd / dairy manager because the owner hopes to become hands off so the person ultimately is running all things dairy.

Hands off is a really interesting term when it comes to staff.

Was having a discussion with a friend recently who is thinking of getting a contract farmer in. It's very difficult to express how difficult that 7 day 24 hour responsibility for a problem passes from the owner to a third party. If it really has passed the number needs to be quite big.

Had a herdsman leave me to run his own farm. One of my favourite comments after he left is I thought you always used to knock off an hour earlier than me and go in the house and drink tea. Now I know what you actually have to do I couldn't have been more wrong.

 

[WD Dairy]

Something that’s fair to both parties
This thread will be “”how long is a piece of string””
There’s a lot to this
All or some of the milking
Ai” ing
All the calvings ,early morning or late at night
Footrimming in house or contractor
Just a few things
Job sounds like someone to put cups on cows 6 days a week and keep an eye on them

Thank you everyone for your feedback.

Manager will be responsible for all animal things - they have 4 permanent people in their team to help (and long standing relief milkers). So the incoming manager will organise these people and themselves to ensure all things animal related are carried out.
Preventative regular foot trimming is contractor, reactive foot trimming is in house (one of the existing team).
AI is in house - one of the existing team's passion and the incoming manager to cover them.
Milking is to be covered by the incoming manager and their team of 4.
Have a nutritionist / consultant support

Currently the owner does the passports, paperwork and ordering as well. The owner wants the incoming person to build into taking on the admin side, so the owner ends up just being a sounding board given his 50+ years in dairy and he'll be relief (in terms of hands on work).

Owner will continue to do costings, P&L and the finance side of things, to feedback to the manager periodically. But the manager won't have to do this side of things or accounts or anything like that ever. The most they'd have to do is get quotes for products to justify which one they've opted for.

Manager will do day to day people management. Owner will do contracts and be the final point of contact if necessary.

 

[In the pit]

Is the option of a contract sort of arrangement and the owner steps right away

 

[Scholsey]

Will the owner carry on responsibility of fields/forage production? Would say herdsman/herd manager is a very different role to if you have responsibility of forage/field/grazing management.

 

[Jdunn55]

What would you expect to pay for a herd / dairy manager for 300 milking, all young stock on farm, AYR. No forage or field responsibility - that’s all sorted for them.
Comes with a house.

Herd / dairy manager because the owner hopes to become hands off so the person ultimately is running all things dairy.

Where are you and would there be an option for the herdsman to bring their own cows with them to run alongside the owners current herd?

 

[Beef farmer]

50k

50k plus a house free from bills.
Getting near the PMs wage.

 

[Milkcow365]

300 milk cows a team of 4 on £30k and 1 on 50k hope the farm owner doesn’t mind getting very little.

 

[Werzle]

Seems to be enough staff mentioned to milk 800+ let alone 300.

 

[Beef farmer]

300 milk cows a team of 4 on £30k and 1 on 50k hope the farm owner doesn’t mind getting very little.

Be 1200l of milk per cow to pay wages. Hope there 12k cows not 6k

 

[TheRanger]

Sounds like an indoor housed high yielding herd going by the labour Requirements? 3x a day milkings?

Could be doing 4m litres a year

 

[Jdunn55]

The 4 people could also do the field work on top of the cows...