Dairy sideline
- Thread starter Bossfarmer
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Fraserb
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
I'm not really sure you can ever have dairy as a sideline, a few acres of arable is okay as a sideline to the dairy, not the other wat round.
Bossfarmer
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- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
A 2nd hand cheap parlour is fine but still requires labour which is ver expensive and will get dearer
Could milk yourself boss? From those I know with them I seriously doubt there is less labour requirement with bots, your labour is spread doing other things, less routine but the same amount of work. Its wether you prefer to be tied to a parlour twice a day (or once, or three) for a set time, or have to go and fetch cows etc whenever.
I thought you costed your labour for free earlier, or are you planning on having a herd manager?
ollie989898
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If you want to play dairy farmer you could go down the road and work for someone else and it would cost you nothing. You could even keep your 'sideline' suckler and arable enterprises...
You'll be wasting your own time and everyone else's unless you get a contract. Do this first as without out one you wont get your milk picked up.
Baling Hay
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I think this Bossfarmer is nothing but a bluffer! Goes over and over....oh and over the same things over and over and never makes a decision. Is it because he is not really who he says he is?
ridger
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- Location
- Tyrone, Northern Ireland
My thoughts exactly
Have you ever milked Boss? Try crawling back into bed with your lovely lady at 7am with your hair smelling of cow shyte. Reality meets fag packet.
ollie989898
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It sounds almost hilarious and incredulous but honestly there are people out there who just think 'hell yeah I will go into dairy- everyone else is making loads of money from it'. That is the Gods honest truth.
It makes a mockery of the job when the dairy farmers I know are consumate professionals at it, their attention to detail and animal husbandry is first rate and they work hard.
It nearly makes me chuckle out loud when you hear folk just come straight out with: 'im going into dairying' or 'im going into arable' when you know they dont know the foggiest about it. That doest seem to compute to them. They have two hands, two feet and land so that apparently qualifies it. Ive seen it a few times and it never ceases to amaze me how many people either supremely confident or supremely something else.
Just buying the cows or breeding them or installing a parlour extends to many thousands yet they assume they already have the requisite skills, technical or commercial acumen to make it work. Its the singlemost best inside joke in farming today if I am honest.
You need only read the very detailed threads from the serious dairy or beef guys to realise the complexity of the job. Not just from a physical perspective but also a long term commercial or economic one. I have always held a lot of admiration for people who quite clearly have 'got it'. I dont think it is something I could personally achieve and the difficulty involved is clearly highlighted by the number of businesses that end up going out of it.
I wonder then about the long term future of an industry of which a portion is still operating in bossfarmer mode? We laugh about it now but by 2025 the training wheels are coming off.
It makes a mockery of the job when the dairy farmers I know are consumate professionals at it, their attention to detail and animal husbandry is first rate and they work hard.
It nearly makes me chuckle out loud when you hear folk just come straight out with: 'im going into dairying' or 'im going into arable' when you know they dont know the foggiest about it. That doest seem to compute to them. They have two hands, two feet and land so that apparently qualifies it. Ive seen it a few times and it never ceases to amaze me how many people either supremely confident or supremely something else.
Just buying the cows or breeding them or installing a parlour extends to many thousands yet they assume they already have the requisite skills, technical or commercial acumen to make it work. Its the singlemost best inside joke in farming today if I am honest.
You need only read the very detailed threads from the serious dairy or beef guys to realise the complexity of the job. Not just from a physical perspective but also a long term commercial or economic one. I have always held a lot of admiration for people who quite clearly have 'got it'. I dont think it is something I could personally achieve and the difficulty involved is clearly highlighted by the number of businesses that end up going out of it.
I wonder then about the long term future of an industry of which a portion is still operating in bossfarmer mode? We laugh about it now but by 2025 the training wheels are coming off.
- Location
- Bedale
Far too many doing it because it's all they have ever done or known and doing what grandad did "cos that's the way we do it here"
Nice choice of words: businesses coming out of it
It is the business farmers who hang up the clusters, rest paddle on blindly making a return on investment below inflation thus loosing money in reality
Irish NZ
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- Location
- The mighty Waikato NZ
Calm down everyone. If the decision is made to go into milk we will have many many years and threads talking about lay out that are all almost identical but with very subtle differences and a new thread will pop up asking the same questions every 2 months.
...... @Dairyman Steve
...... @Dairyman Steve
FonterraFarmer
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- Location
- Waikato, New Zealand
Oh , what pulsators should the milking plant have?.....Calm down everyone. If the decision is made to go into milk we will have many many years and threads talking about lay out that are all almost identical but with very subtle differences and a new thread will pop up asking the same questions every 2 months.
...... @Dairyman Steve
I've corrected your mistake.
Calm down everyone. If the decision is made to go into milk we will have many many years and threads talking about lay out that are all almost identical but with very subtle differences and a new thread will pop up asking the same questions every 2 months.
...... @Dairyman Steve
I blew my top last time I saw a thread of his and since discovered the ignore button...but i''m guessing he's no further down the line and building?
Bossfarmer
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- between Perth and Inverness
the whole point in this forum for me is to discuss different ideas and speak to people who have done it, no need for any of the personal nonsense i dont care if you beieve what i say or not
Bossfarmer
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- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
never but ive seen plenty of cow sh!t
Irish NZ
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- Location
- The mighty Waikato NZ