It is not just the number, it is the diameter also. That is why the Tiger was so good, as it had large diameter AND overlapping/close spaced. Lots of small idlers will produce lots of peaks, as the rubber tracks can deflect in the gaps between the idlers.I agree, absolutely That's why all ag spec tracks have plenty of idlers.
True; but then you get into a steel chain and cleats rather than a rubber track. A steel chain is basically laying a road and then riding over it. Idler position and diameter has some but not much effect. A rubber track will stretch and the idler diameter and width come in to play.It is not just the number, it is the diameter also. That is why the Tiger was so good, as it had large diameter AND overlapping/close spaced. Lots of small idlers will produce lots of peaks, as the rubber tracks can deflect in the gaps between the idlers.
It's called physics, you're right... ground pressure, not overall weight... measured in psi or N/m2....It's force per area.Only idiots would think that spreading weight out reduces potential overall compaction ,well ive got news for yous all.....its still there all that weight ,every bit of it its very basic physics, where do you think it goes ?a big fairy comes along and scoops it up and away?
when i read crap like this it really does make me wonder who ,these days is actually technically fit to farm at all, just those with the money to buy more machinery i guess ...
There's no high horse here.It's called physics, you're right... ground pressure, not overall weight... measured in psi or N/m2....It's force per area.
Come down off your high horse when you've worked it out!
You're a little bit right.There's no high horse here.
and It was worked out for me years ago, that weight, although spread out creating less tightness near the soil surface , applies the rest of its compaction force deeper down, which if course is harder to get out.
You're not avoiding the weight being on the soil , its just in a different place.
Are you sure it’s not the tyres on the back or another operation completely? I’m pretty sure someone at Claas double-checked that tracks create smaller ruts than tyres with everything else being equal before investing millions in developing them. It’s not like combines need the extra traction…
It is interesting what you’ve observed…I was wondering whether with a track print having all of the weight spread evenly across its width and a tyre creating an oval indent being much deeper in the middle than the edges of the tyre; could it be an optical illusion that the track has a noticeable ‘edge’ of the imprint whereas the edge of a wheeling, unless really wet,tends not to have a visible edge-you just see the cleats/tread pattern which go much deeper in a cleat? We have 90% 800’s on the combine and a challenger with 90% tracks and I’d say the cleats on the combine tyres are a good inch deeper/taller. I’d change the combine to tracks in a heartbeat if I could justify it. We even pull the rolls with the crawler; you can’t see where it’s been-immediately after or when the crop comes up.No definitely the combine but yes rear wheel would play a part. The wheeled machine has left much less of an imprint.