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DD some triumph swedes today
DD swedes & Fodder crops
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Its a pity there isnt more of them Duncans about
Just had one of my customers buy a Simtech but as delivery is miles away they brought him the “arable” version to be getting on with. However it was bringing up so many stones he called me in and I did 42 acres for him yesterday with my disc drill. However the supplier said the grass version is less likely to bring up stones due to a different tine design, will this be right as I didn’t realise there was any difference.
yes i suppose once stone is brought up they would be harder to put back down ,unlike on ploughed ground which a roller would push them down totally in the softer soil all round.
Here though in a highpatheticall one pass situation i would still rather put stuff in with them because i fancey the lifting /bit of tilth action of the tine (even if its not very relatively deep ) rather than the oposite way the disc works ,compacting almost ,that might be ok for grass seed but for other stuff ......
Got acouple of fields coming up that would be a good job to get someone in and do it because atm weve 3 tractors but none of them working 100%
I certainly wouldnt get someone in to plough and work them down that would just wind me right up
Here though in a highpatheticall one pass situation i would still rather put stuff in with them because i fancey the lifting /bit of tilth action of the tine (even if its not very relatively deep ) rather than the oposite way the disc works ,compacting almost ,that might be ok for grass seed but for other stuff ......
Got acouple of fields coming up that would be a good job to get someone in and do it because atm weve 3 tractors but none of them working 100%
I certainly wouldnt get someone in to plough and work them down that would just wind me right up
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ISCO
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We looked at them at Groundswell and the salesman did say that the grassland one pulled up.less stone. If I recall correctly, the tines have one less coil so they claim they are more likely to move around stones or lift over them.
ISCO
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Stones are our issue which is why I favour a disc drill on our land. Son wants a Simtech which is fine if he picks stones.
Simtech argument on stones is that they only pull up a few stones in top inch or so and if you have that money stones a disc drill will ride out over them so better to pull them up and get them picked.
Simtech argument on stones is that they only pull up a few stones in top inch or so and if you have that money stones a disc drill will ride out over them so better to pull them up and get them picked.
Depends on what tine used on them Arthur atkinson drills but theres accounts on this forum that they used to break tines in hard going as well ,and are not cheap to keep replacing.
Still the best slot in the business, if only they could modify them to leaving less stone/trash on the top, they would be the bees knees.
They are all dear to run, put 3 bearings in mine yesterday so the Erth is no better than the Moore ( sealed bearings) but I think the grease nipples are really just for lubricating the seals as I can’t see how the grease can get into the bearing itself. Proper fiddly job as not much room to work in the 32 row machines, old Moore was simpler.
They are all dear to run, put 3 bearings in mine yesterday so the Erth is no better than the Moore ( sealed bearings) but I think the grease nipples are really just for lubricating the seals as I can’t see how the grease can get into the bearing itself. Proper fiddly job as not much room to work in the 32 row machines, old Moore was simpler.
Yes the T slot idea is a really good one having said that is a cross + slot a better discription of it. ?
i dont know what the difference is if any between the tine on Kev's drill or the At. grass farmer one
and also is that Duncan one ' peg' wheel metering instead of a sponge wrapped around to pull seed out ??
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Duncan are peg wheel. Tine/boot arrangement are very similar to simtech. I learned off a chap who heated and bent the tines on his simtech to reduce the stone lifting effect - I added wedges to the tines on my Duncan to acieve the same thing.
All these drills have advantages and disadvantages - Ive had mine since about 2011 and no intention of changing it after numerous boots and discs and thousands of acres drilled.
biggest disadvantage as far as i can see initially is of availability , especially of a Duncan .
Yep I think the Duncan is a peg wheel, Kev will likely enlighten us. The sponge idea doesn’t appeal to me after I heard the mice like eating them in the winter
.The main problem with NZ drills ( or anything from that country ) is the sheer bloody cost of spares. I know this from experience (the cost of Prattley and Te Pari parts ),they are at another level so I will always buy European if possible.
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I wouldn’t disagree but I can’t say that mine has been expensive to run and I could easily see me getting another 10 years out of it
ISCO
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The aitchison drill we looked at had sponge rollers and had a metal shut off slide to stop mice getting into the rollers in winter which I thought was a good idea. So as long as the lid fits square and you remember to push the slide it should be fine.Yep I think the Duncan is a peg wheel, Kev will likely enlighten us. The sponge idea doesn’t appeal to me after I heard the mice like eating them in the winter
The main problem with NZ drills ( or anything from that country ) is the sheer bloody cost of spares. I know this from experience (the cost of Prattley and Te Pari parts ),they are at another level so I will always buy European if possible.
Then got to remember to open it the next year before you start drilling. Not sure if Simtech had same idea.
i thought the peg wheel might give a more reliable /consistent seed feed what with machine vibration slippery seeds etcYep I think the Duncan is a peg wheel, Kev will likely enlighten us. The sponge idea doesn’t appeal to me after I heard the mice like eating them in the winter
The main problem with NZ drills ( or anything from that country ) is the sheer bloody cost of spares. I know this from experience (the cost of Prattley and Te Pari parts ),they are at another level so I will always buy European if possible.
mice and rats
would chew at the peg wheels as well on our Fiona's given the chance and seed left in the hopper for a day or 2 That’s the good thing about drills, they are not complex and a basic store of parts can keep you going. I always carried a spare coulter on my unidrill then any bearing failure and five minutes and away you went. I suppose with this 32 row Erth just taking off the knackered disc would keep you going.
@Kevtherev could load his outfit on a lowloader and go on a 'working' tour of Scotland ,Wales, England and Ireland .............like Billy Connelly did
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The Duncan uses Amazone peg wheel metering units simple and effective.Yep I think the Duncan is a peg wheel, Kev will likely enlighten us. The sponge idea doesn’t appeal to me after I heard the mice like eating them in the winter
The main problem with NZ drills ( or anything from that country ) is the sheer bloody cost of spares. I know this from experience (the cost of Prattley and Te Pari parts ),they are at another level so I will always buy European if possible.
Plus the fine wheel option for small seeds.
Spares can be costly and a wait for some parts.
L W Yarnold and Tom Tierney Duncan ag Ireland great for parts.
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- Welshpool Powys
@Kevtherev could load his outfit on a lowloader and go on a 'working' tour of Scotland ,Wales, England and Ireland .............like Billy Connelly did
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- Welshpool Powys
I think the Duncan tine has an extra spring coil and the seed boots maybe slightly wider at rear than an Aitchison.
Also boots are bolt on compared to the Aitchison roll pin I think
