De Souza case

[The Agrarian]

Emma De Souza: Home Office appeal of case is upheld

The 1998 Good Friday Agreement allows people to identify as British, Irish or both.

www.bbc.co.uk

Some people truly have gone mad. Wanting to apply for rights for a foreign husband on the strength of his relationship to you, even though you refuse to hold the identity of the country you were born and reared in. Seriously?

 

[nivilla1982]

I wonder has G Adams sent the appropriate form to denounce his British citizenship and paid the fee etc?

 

[M-J-G]

I wonder has G Adams sent the appropriate form to denounce his British citizenship and paid the fee etc?

I thought you would know, you are usually on the ball with information about those types.

 

[nivilla1982]

https://moj-tribunals-documents-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/decision/doc_file/67252/EA066672016.doc

Link to the written judgement etc

 

[Danllan]

I wonder has G Adams sent the appropriate form to denounce his British citizenship and paid the fee etc?

He denounced it decades ago, not sure he's got around to renouncing it yet though...

 

[The Agrarian]

Still takes the Queen's pound though.

 

[M-J-G]

Still takes the Queen's pound though.

I accept Euros, so I can't really criticise.

 

[Boohoo]

Anyone else hear Stephen Farry talking about the case on Radio Ulster earlier? He wants the British and Irish governments to sit down and work through the issues over identity that have arisen over the last 20 years, it's not like they've got anything more important on at the moment!. He also states that citizenship follows on from identity and he identifies as Northern Irish first and European second, neither of which are options under the agreement. In a typical Alliance hint to equality he said that if there was ever a United Ireland, a child born to Unionist parents should be allowed British rather than Irish citizenship if the parents wish. Yet again the Alliance party is determined to create more problems than they'll ever solve.

 

[nivilla1982]

Still takes the Queen's pound though.

Some pictures of HM Queen are more "offensive" than others apparently.

 

[Danllan]

Anyone else hear Stephen Farry talking about the case on Radio Ulster earlier? He wants the British and Irish governments to sit down and work through the issues over identity...

I must be too tired, I read that as Stephen Fry at first, and was wondering what the hell he was sticking his nose into all this for...

 

[Boohoo]

I must be too tired, I read that as Stephen Fry at first, and was wondering what the hell he was sticking his nose into all this for...

He would be easier to listen to!

 

[M-J-G]

Some pictures of HM Queen are more "offensive" than others apparently.

Just like being opposed to the EU, yet we still accept our payments, well I do anyway.

 

[czechmate]

I must be too tired, I read that as Stephen Fry at first, and was wondering what the hell he was sticking his nose into all this for...

Absolutely me too.

 

[rob1]

Just like being opposed to the EU, yet we still accept our payments, well I do anyway.

But those payents came rom uk tax payers in the first place

 

[M-J-G]

But those payents came rom uk tax payers in the first place

I'm guessing GA pays tax too, and like many farmers he'll have recieved more payments from an establishment he opposes than he has paid in tax.

If he's a hypocrite........

 

[nivilla1982]

Part of the issue seems to be that the Belfast Agreement talks about the right to "identify" as British or Irish or both, and for both governments to respect that. No specific mention of citizenship or the conferring of etc is mentioned in the agreement.

 

[Boohoo]

Part of the issue seems to be that the Belfast Agreement talks about the right to "identify" as British or Irish or both, and for both governments to respect that. No specific mention of citizenship or the conferring of etc is mentioned in the agreement.

Exactly, the people in question can't understand the difference between identity and citizenship. Any sensible person in a normal country would renounce the citizenship they don't want and apply for the citizenship they do want but no this is Northern Ireland so you have to create a scene, waste money, get politicians involved who should know by now to stay away from these sorts of things and create more problems for the future.

 

[M-J-G]

Exactly, the people in question can't understand the difference between identity and citizenship. Any sensible person in a normal country would renounce the citizenship they don't want and apply for the citizenship they do want but no this is Northern Ireland so you have to create a scene, waste money, get politicians involved who should know by now to stay away from these sorts of things and create more problems for the future.

Quite a poor quality scene, I don't think many people notice.