Dead wild animal - what next if anything?

[Steevo]

If a fox or any other wild animal dies of natural causes on your land....is there anything to say whether you have a legal obligation to do or not to do anything?

Are there any circumstances where this is different?

 

[som farmer]

the bit that got me, is, it's our responsibility to clear it up, and are legally liable. Damn thing was right by a heavily used foot path, so l expect multiple complaints, it did smell rather ! So presume that was why min was so heavy handed. Had trouble before there, in one of the F&M out breaks, we had a ewe needing shooting, rung knackerman, who said they would be there in 1 hour, so, left it in a pen, rather than drive 10 miles home and back, to get a gun. Well knacker didn't come, til next day...........had a right grilling from t standards, and was told, should have taken it home, 'without a license ?' that cured her.
We gave up on sheep in the end, to many footpaths, to many ex city dwellers, RSPCA, were visiting us on a very regular basis, 2 women locally, kept ringing them, they never found anything wrong, and used to apologise, saying they had to respond to complaints. Sheep for us, became serious hassle, and you always know, one day, there would be something wrong, there was a lot more than above, as well.
Only have dairy now, much less hassle, though we have been targeted by a vegan, that was seriously nasty, again, a person with no idea of how farms run, and we passed the ensuing ministry, and Red tractor, inspections with no problems, what so ever, never been so glad to see RT inspector, and within 24hrs.
But, it changed our sick animal policy, it's treat, no improvement 48 hrs, consult vet by phone/visit, if no improvement after another 48 hrs, bang. No-one can touch you, if you have had vet advice.

 

[Plopper]

We gave up on sheep in the end, to many footpaths, to many ex city dwellers, RSPCA, were visiting us on a very regular basis, 2 women locally, kept ringing them, they never found anything wrong, and used to apologise, saying they had to respond to complaints. Sheep for us, became serious hassle, and you always know, one day, there would be something wrong, there was a lot more than above, as well.
Only have dairy now, much less hassle, though we have been targeted by a vegan, that was seriously nasty, again, a person with no idea of how farms run, and we passed the ensuing ministry, and Red tractor, inspections with no problems, what so ever, never been so glad to see RT inspector, and within 24hrs.
But, it changed our sick animal policy, it's treat, no improvement 48 hrs, consult vet by phone/visit, if no improvement after another 48 hrs, bang. No-one can touch you, if you have had vet advice.

sounds very much like the trouble we have with one bit of land with footpaths through it, has made me question why we bother a few times but im not going to let the C U Next TuesdayS beat me.

 

[som farmer]

we were moving away from sheep, as we restarted the dairy, so they just went quicker than they would have
There are a lot of new houses going up locally, each one could be bought by ex city dwellers, with not a lot to do, smell trouble on the wind !!

 

[puppet]

A couple of years ago my sister had a deer die in one of her fields next to a back road popular with walkers. First she knew about it was when the local council got in contact with her telling her to dispose of it as they had been receiving complaint(s) from walker(s) re the smell.
I went to investigate and found the smell (stink) in the lane and also found the deer in the field the other side of the hedge near the smell. She had to get the local knacker man in to collect it and take it away at her cost.

You should have dragged it onto a road. I have driven past 2 for the past 2 months. Just a few bones and a hide left but nobody shifted them.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

the bit that got me, is, it's our responsibility to clear it up, and are legally liable. Damn thing was right by a heavily used foot path, so l expect multiple complaints, it did smell rather ! So presume that was why min was so heavy handed. Had trouble before there, in one of the F&M out breaks, we had a ewe needing shooting, rung knackerman, who said they would be there in 1 hour, so, left it in a pen, rather than drive 10 miles home and back, to get a gun. Well knacker didn't come, til next day...........had a right grilling from t standards, and was told, should have taken it home, 'without a license ?' that cured her.
We gave up on sheep in the end, to many footpaths, to many ex city dwellers, RSPCA, were visiting us on a very regular basis, 2 women locally, kept ringing them, they never found anything wrong, and used to apologise, saying they had to respond to complaints. Sheep for us, became serious hassle, and you always know, one day, there would be something wrong, there was a lot more than above, as well.
Only have dairy now, much less hassle, though we have been targeted by a vegan, that was seriously nasty, again, a person with no idea of how farms run, and we passed the ensuing ministry, and Red tractor, inspections with no problems, what so ever, never been so glad to see RT inspector, and within 24hrs.
But, it changed our sick animal policy, it's treat, no improvement 48 hrs, consult vet by phone/visit, if no improvement after another 48 hrs, bang. No-one can touch you, if you have had vet advice.

Our old dog had a skin condition, where a lot of her hair fell out and she looked like a hound from hell. She also had a heart condition, so the vet said she could not give her steroids to sort out her skin as they effect the heart, anyway the vet was happy with her and she was enjoying life still and loving working.

Pet dog got out, and an interfering, pet rehoming neighbour brought her back and saw Nessie in the kennels. She phoned the RSPCA.

RSPCA inspector came round, luckily I was at work and James (son) was home, he is very easy going and affable. Anyway, he showed the inspector Nessie, phoned the vet (she asked permission to discuss Nessie with the RSPCA, James said that was fine), vet said she was happy with Nessie and that Nessie was under her care, so the inspector was happy.

I would have been inclined to not let the inspector in, and tell them to leave or ask to see their warrant etc, but I guess that would have escalated things! So lucky I was at work.

 

[Bongodog]

Had a phone call from Mum one morning, something on her driveway. Drove up and it was a dead badger, threw it on truck took it in last journey down Fen threw it in a copse of trees (no bovines within a mile) job sorted.

Meanwhile every time someone sees a dead fox etc in the village the Parish Clerk phones the district council who spend a fortune sending out a van and driver.

 

[Cowmansam]

Remember when I was at primary school was a big dead badger in the front of the school in summer for about 3 days as nobody would shift it my old man slung it in the black bin and it went

 

[unlacedgecko]

Had a phone call from Mum one morning, something on her driveway. Drove up and it was a dead badger, threw it on truck took it in last journey down Fen threw it in a copse of trees (no bovines within a mile) job sorted.

Meanwhile every time someone sees a dead fox etc in the village the Parish Clerk phones the district council who spend a fortune sending out a van and driver.

I'd be seriously pïssed off if my council tax was being wasted in that way.

 

[som farmer]

Our old dog had a skin condition, where a lot of her hair fell out and she looked like a hound from hell. She also had a heart condition, so the vet said she could not give her steroids to sort out her skin as they effect the heart, anyway the vet was happy with her and she was enjoying life still and loving working.

Pet dog got out, and an interfering, pet rehoming neighbour brought her back and saw Nessie in the kennels. She phoned the RSPCA.

RSPCA inspector came round, luckily I was at work and James (son) was home, he is very easy going and affable. Anyway, he showed the inspector Nessie, phoned the vet (she asked permission to discuss Nessie with the RSPCA, James said that was fine), vet said she was happy with Nessie and that Nessie was under her care, so the inspector was happy.

I would have been inclined to not let the inspector in, and tell them to leave or ask to see their warrant etc, but I guess that would have escalated things! So lucky I was at work.

the RSPCA have no right to enter your property, whatsoever, unless accompanied by a police officer, they are trespassing, they might argue that they have, but they very clearly do not. They can look from a public highway, or footpath, that is all. Which gives you time to see if you have a problem, and deal with it, if they are determined, and livestock farmer has problems, and that's not suggesting it's common practice.
When we were having lame sheep 'problems', often the first l knew, was inspector finding me, and 'the story' but found nothing wrong. There is no way l want RSPCA officers walking all across my farm, without me knowing, and driving, on occasion, that stopped, when l checked the rules.
Most of the officers were fine, but had misguided views of farming practices, odd 1 was awful, like the one who conditioned scored our sheep, by eye, and said they were starved, l was rather rude to her, which led to a min visit, who agreed with me, no problem.
90% of our 'problems', were complaints from 2 women, who had moved into the area, and if anything, in their eyes was 'wrong', complaint to RSPCA or min. Thankfully, they moved, but it is the disconnection, of farming, from food production, in the public view, that is causing the ever increasing problem, many complainees, are nice people, that care about animals, but just misguided, especially if you have someone saying how cruel farmers are.
Such is life, sheep went, no more problems, until the nutty vegan, even she has moved on now.

 

[Paddington]

Plenty of dead badgers on the roads round here, you only stop to wonder if you don't see any, where have they all gone ?

 

[som farmer]

Plenty of dead badgers on the roads round here, you only stop to wonder if you don't see any, where have they all gone ?

plus the ones that make it off the road, and die elsewhere

 

[Highland Mule]

plus the ones that make it off the road, and die elsewhere

Suspect quite a few die elsewhere and then arrive at the roadside…

 

[roscoe erf]

Suspect quite a few die elsewhere and then arrive at the roadside…

Probably by a ford

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Plenty of dead badgers on the roads round here, you only stop to wonder if you don't see any, where have they all gone ?

I think the Badgers with TB are more likely to be hit by cars

 

[Ffermer Bach]

the RSPCA have no right to enter your property, whatsoever, unless accompanied by a police officer, they are trespassing, they might argue that they have, but they very clearly do not. They can look from a public highway, or footpath, that is all. Which gives you time to see if you have a problem, and deal with it, if they are determined, and livestock farmer has problems, and that's not suggesting it's common practice.
When we were having lame sheep 'problems', often the first l knew, was inspector finding me, and 'the story' but found nothing wrong. There is no way l want RSPCA officers walking all across my farm, without me knowing, and driving, on occasion, that stopped, when l checked the rules.
Most of the officers were fine, but had misguided views of farming practices, odd 1 was awful, like the one who conditioned scored our sheep, by eye, and said they were starved, l was rather rude to her, which led to a min visit, who agreed with me, no problem.
90% of our 'problems', were complaints from 2 women, who had moved into the area, and if anything, in their eyes was 'wrong', complaint to RSPCA or min. Thankfully, they moved, but it is the disconnection, of farming, from food production, in the public view, that is causing the ever increasing problem, many complainees, are nice people, that care about animals, but just misguided, especially if you have someone saying how cruel farmers are.
Such is life, sheep went, no more problems, until the nutty vegan, even she has moved on now.

Unfortunately you are right, there is a serious disconnect between farming, food and the general public. Maybe the Nandos/Mc Donnalds food shortages are a start of food becoming more important. Just thinking about the shortages of milkshakes made me think how lucky we have been, I bet throughout human history there has never been a period where food has been so available and cheap. Where we can walk into a supermarket 24 hours a day, and have available every type of food from throughout the world (even if not in season here) available for little money.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

I think the Badgers with TB are more likely to be hit by cars

or with an 80 grain in them?!

 

[Frankzy]

Wild animals? I'm still not entirely sure what to do with a dead horse!

 

[Kidds]

Suspect quite a few die elsewhere and then arrive at the roadside…

I have heard that theory before can't figure out why on earth anyone would risk being caught with a dead badger.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I have heard that theory before can't figure out why on earth anyone would risk being caught with a dead badger.

I hope it's the rural equivalent of an "urban myth". If not and the cull sabs find proof of it we will all be hung out to dry.....

 

[Cowmansam]

They actually started picking them up a few years ago and doing pms if any where found you would never have heard the end of it