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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
That's np,you're most welcome :)
I think in many ways we can be stubborn in stuff, because we know we have been able to do it before now, so why can't we still? Type thing. As we get older, although our determine nation is still there, no matter what age we are we can't do as much as say we could maybe a year or 3 previously, therefore we have to adapt. Things we cant do that well we can either try find new ways of accomplishing doing them, to make it easier for us, or we can cut it out of our lives completely. Whichever way we choose has to be what's best for us in the long run, there's no shame in stopping or in knowing what you can or can't do. All humans degrade over time, it's horrible ik but that's life, but with each passing year we can find something new and exciting to do, or find a skill we never knew we had. So instead of seeing things you can't do anymore, how about replacing them with new things that you can do? :)

I don't feel like I am past it yet but I sometimes feel like I am treading water.

This is a small farm and its mixed, so we have lots of little enterprises such as different crops and livestock to deal with. We are stuck in the 1970's but with 1/5 of the staff and with 5 times more chemicals needed and 5 times the overheads. I sometimes consider grassing the whole lot down and cutting out the expensive arable which knackers the soil and costs a fortune on inputs and is very high risk with uncertain weather except maybe for some barley and forage turnips for the stock. Its about playing to strengths and cutting out weaknesses.

I also have my brother to consider. He is sick of the sheep, I am sick of the arable but we work well together. We dabble in cattle but aren't experts.

Forget contractors because its just too expensive, but I have a shed full of old kit with perishing tyres and flattening batteries for use a fortnight a year. Maintaining it all is like painting the Forth Bridge.

I don't have a quick answer but I am mulling it over. We both are.

A good rain and some warm weather would help immensely.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I don't feel like I am past it yet but I sometimes feel like I am treading water.

This is a small farm and its mixed, so we have lots of little enterprises such as different crops and livestock to deal with. We are stuck in the 1970's but with 1/5 of the staff and with 5 times more chemicals needed and 5 times the overheads. I sometimes consider grassing the whole lot down and cutting out the expensive arable which knackers the soil and costs a fortune on inputs and is very high risk with uncertain weather except maybe for some barley and forage turnips for the stock. Its about playing to strengths and cutting out weaknesses.

I also have my brother to consider. He is sick of the sheep, I am sick of the arable but we work well together. We dabble in cattle but aren't experts.

Forget contractors because its just too expensive, but I have a shed full of old kit with perishing tyres and flattening batteries for use a fortnight a year. Maintaining it all is like painting the Forth Bridge.

I don't have a quick answer but I am mulling it over. We both are.

A good rain and some warm weather would help immensely.

I think many on here could write a post just like that....! Myself included at times!
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
I don't feel like I am past it yet but I sometimes feel like I am treading water.

This is a small farm and its mixed, so we have lots of little enterprises such as different crops and livestock to deal with. We are stuck in the 1970's but with 1/5 of the staff and with 5 times more chemicals needed and 5 times the overheads. I sometimes consider grassing the whole lot down and cutting out the expensive arable which knackers the soil and costs a fortune on inputs and is very high risk with uncertain weather except maybe for some barley and forage turnips for the stock. Its about playing to strengths and cutting out weaknesses.

I also have my brother to consider. He is sick of the sheep, I am sick of the arable but we work well together. We dabble in cattle but aren't experts.

Forget contractors because its just too expensive, but I have a shed full of old kit with perishing tyres and flattening batteries for use a fortnight a year. Maintaining it all is like painting the Forth Bridge.

I don't have a quick answer but I am mulling it over. We both are.

A good rain and some warm weather would help immensely.
Fwiw I'd say try to agree what each of you enjoys doing and find a way to do it profitably then ditch the rest. Life's too short.
 

waterbuffalofarmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Penzance
I don't feel like I am past it yet but I sometimes feel like I am treading water.

This is a small farm and its mixed, so we have lots of little enterprises such as different crops and livestock to deal with. We are stuck in the 1970's but with 1/5 of the staff and with 5 times more chemicals needed and 5 times the overheads. I sometimes consider grassing the whole lot down and cutting out the expensive arable which knackers the soil and costs a fortune on inputs and is very high risk with uncertain weather except maybe for some barley and forage turnips for the stock. Its about playing to strengths and cutting out weaknesses.

I also have my brother to consider. He is sick of the sheep, I am sick of the arable but we work well together. We dabble in cattle but aren't experts.

Forget contractors because its just too expensive, but I have a shed full of old kit with perishing tyres and flattening batteries for use a fortnight a year. Maintaining it all is like painting the Forth Bridge.

I don't have a quick answer but I am mulling it over. We both are.

A good rain and some warm weather would help immensely.
It sounds like you both know where the problem is and that's a very good place to start. Most don't know the problem and therefore don't know the solution/can't find it. I hope that you can find the solution to what you both want to do soon :)
 

Greenbeast

Member
Location
East Sussex
I flip flop massively here with what i want to do. If the pigs are escaping due to shoddy fencing i want them all shot and the next day when i've patched up the fencing i want to grow more on so we can go full on with finishing pigs for shop supply again.
We've got a litter of weaners booked in at the mart next week but i'm still tempted to put them in the grower pen and finish them
 
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milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I flip flop massively here with what i want to do. If the pigs are escaping due to shoddy fencing i want them all shot and the next day when i've patched up the fencing i want to grow more on so we can go full on with finishing pigs for shop supply again.
We've got a litter of weaners booked in at the mart next week but i'm still tempted to put them in the grower pen and finish them

Lot of flip flopping going on here too!
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
I flip flop massively here with what i want to do. If the pigs are escaping due to shoddy fencing i want them all shot and the next day when i've patched up the fencing i want to grow more on so we can go full on with finishing pigs for shop supply again.
We've got a litter of weaners booked in at the mart next week but i'm still tempted to put them in the grower pen and finish them

you sound like me ...only i have sheep:D:D
 
I have nowt and I still flip flop if I don't keep a close eye on my diet
( caffein/alcohol/gluten intake ) letting things appear all out of proportion at times.

Thinking of pigs though; I remember as a teen helping out at small piggery and the cold winter nights when we brewed up swill in a wood fired boiler and then tipped the lot into an old bathtub ready to be bucketted to the troughs. Despite all the stuff that whent into the boiler, it smelled good enough to eat when it came out all hot and steaming. I also remember the days when some folk kept open-ended 45 gal drums for their vegetable peelings and the pig-man would come round to collect it all for his heard of swine..............I think it all goes to the House of Commons now!
 

BobGreen

Member
Location
Lancs
I have nowt and I still flip flop if I don't keep a close eye on my diet
( caffein/alcohol/gluten intake ) letting things appear all out of proportion at times.

Thinking of pigs though; I remember as a teen helping out at small piggery and the cold winter nights when we brewed up swill in a wood fired boiler and then tipped the lot into an old bathtub ready to be bucketted to the troughs. Despite all the stuff that whent into the boiler, it smelled good enough to eat when it came out all hot and steaming. I also remember the days when some folk kept open-ended 45 gal drums for their vegetable peelings and the pig-man would come round to collect it all for his heard of swine..............I think it all goes to the House of Commons now!
Chris
You do have a bit of farming background after all !!!
 

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