Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Something else i have learned over the last year or so is that tidying up the yard/business/house/finances has a very positive effect on mental wellbeing. It doesn't take a lot of effort, can sometimes generate cash and is a useful distraction from bigger problems. A bit like keeping your own physical appearance tidy, it somehow adds to happiness even though cold logic would suggest it doesn't make a lot of difference to the bottom line.

When motivation is lacking to tackle bigger problems, a bit of tidying up can be a useful way of easing yourself in to tackling bigger problems. That's what I find anyway. Even a sweep up makes me feel better.
 

Whitewalker

Member
Something else i have learned over the last year or so is that tidying up the yard/business/house/finances has a very positive effect on mental wellbeing. It doesn't take a lot of effort, can sometimes generate cash and is a useful distraction from bigger problems. A bit like keeping your own physical appearance tidy, it somehow adds to happiness even though cold logic would suggest it doesn't make a lot of difference to the bottom line.

When motivation is lacking to tackle bigger problems, a bit of tidying up can be a useful way of easing yourself in to tackling bigger problems. That's what I find anyway. Even a sweep up makes me feel better.

If I have a list of jobs I pick the smallest easiest one first . Gets you motivated.
 

waterbuffalofarmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Penzance
I will say over this past year after everything that has happened, I have emerged stronger in some aspects. There are days that my depression creeps back and I just wanna lay down and die. Recently, last month, I was supposed to be doing a course and it came back when i was meant to be revising and I had no drive and subsequently because of it i didn't do the course and never managed to complete it, which in turn made me feel 10 times worse about myself, but at same time a relief also. Because of various things going on in past few years I think I am partly dead inside, like stuff that used to effect me massively doesnt necessarily effect me too much anymore, I generally don't care bout most things now. There are some mates who I have known a long time and I do care about huge, but the sudden urge of feeling emotions for them hardly happens anymore, most of the time I feel indifferent. Even when a crisis arises with them or, as my mind percieves at times they attention seek, I immediately shut down and pretend to give a crap but inside i feel absolutely nothing at all. I've noticed lately my mother is seriously annoying me with things, so much so past few months I have continuously wanted to live away from home, as both parents, i have come to realise, act like children at times, worst part is if you try to rebuke them you get shouted at for talking back, so the resentment starts to build up inside..... But then you kind of bury it down deep inside so you don't have to feel it. I will also say that I can't feel emotions like I used to, it takes a lot for me to cry now and when I do I have to force myself to cry and then I feel like sh!t afterwards as I haven't gotten it all out. When I cry I feel weak and ashamed, I have tried to get rid of that feeling but it won't go, but when I cry without having to force it, I tend to cry for such a long time I wonder if I'll ever stop and it just keeps pouring out. I often am angry and rage, always get into verbal fights with my family, only say sorry afterwards to keep the peace, very often don't feel remorse at all. I'm finding if I'm talking to my mates I'm calmer but when I come away the rage and anger/resentment builds up and yeah... I have to find ways of calming down. But I would like to thank you all for being here for me this past year, you have no idea how much it helped just to be able to vent without continuously annoying my friends or family haha.
I hope everyone else is feeling ok now. Keep typing peeps
 
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fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire
I will say over this past year after everything that has happened, I have emerged stronger in some aspects. There are days that my depression creeps back and I just wanna lay down and die. Recently, last month, I was supposed to be doing a course and it came back when i was meant to be revising and I had no drive and subsequently because of it i didn't do the course and never managed to complete it, which in turn made me feel 10 times worse about myself, but at same time a relief also. Because of various things going on in past few years I think I am partly dead inside, like stuff that used to effect me massively doesnt necessarily effect me too much anymore, I generally don't care bout most things now. There are some mates who I have known a long time and I do care about huge, but the sudden urge of feeling emotions for them hardly happens anymore, most of the time I feel indifferent. Even when a crisis arises with them or, as my mind percieves at times they attention seek, I immediately shut down and pretend to give a crap but inside i feel absolutely nothing at all. I've noticed lately my mother is seriously annoying me with things, so much so past few months I have continuously wanted to live away from home, as both parents, i have come to realise, act like children at times, worst part is if you try to rebuke them you get shouted at for talking back, so the resentment starts to build up inside..... But then you kind of bury it down deep inside so you don't have to feel it. I will also say that I can't feel emotions like I used to, it takes a lot for me to cry now and when I do I have to force myself to cry and then I feel like sh!t afterwards as I haven't gotten it all out. When I cry I feel weak and ashamed, I have tried to get rid of that feeling but it won't go, but when I cry without having to force it, I tend to cry for such a long time I wonder if I'll ever stop and it just keeps pouring out. I often am angry and rage, always get into verbal fights with my family, only say sorry afterwards to keep the peace, very often don't feel remorse at all. I'm finding if I'm talking to my mates I'm calmer but when I come away the rage and anger/resentment builds up and yeah... I have to find ways of calming down. But I would like to thank you all for being here for me this past year, you have no idea how much it helped just to be able to vent without continuously annoying my friends or family haha.
I hope everyone else is feeling ok now. Keep typing peeps
You are not alone , I feel a lot of what ur going through ,the feeling that your in a corner with no way out is the hardest
 
Unresolved and repressed/supressed anger can often function as a booster, driving us downwards into depression but it isn't always the driving force behind out journey and that is why it is always wise to try and talk to others about our feelings and if need-be seek professional advice and guidance.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Are you drinking enough water?
The brain is like a battery/electrical machine and needs to be well hydrated to work properly.
Feelings of thirst tend to get suppressed when we are stressed/tired and we don't drink enough.
If I am feeling "flat" I will sip a pint glass of tapwater and I soon feel better. Don't overdo it though.

Tea and coffee aren't very effective as they make us pee more out so less net gain. Alcohol is like a nuclear bomb on our systems. Happy now, payback later.
 

fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire
Fiat 9090,

Could just be chemical imbalance, over work, or any number of other things; which is why professional advice is so valuable in helping to resolve things. Have you discussed the depth of your feelings with your nearest and dearest and have you seen your GP?

With things going so well, are you concerned that it will come to an end?
thanks cristoph
I see a psychotherapist every fortnight and I'm on medication but it needs changing but because I'm bipolar it's hard to get medication right, it's generally done in hospital
 

fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire
Are you drinking enough water?
The brain is like a battery/electrical machine and needs to be well hydrated to work properly.
Feelings of thirst tend to get suppressed when we are stressed/tired and we don't drink enough.
If I am feeling "flat" I will sip a pint glass of tapwater and I soon feel better. Don't overdo it though.

Tea and coffee aren't very effective as they make us pee more out so less net gain. Alcohol is like a nuclear bomb on our systems. Happy now, payback later.
Yes I drink plenty of water but my appetite is poor and I stoped drinking alcohol years ago when I was put on medication ,
 

fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire
I have no idea how you feel but I have felt anxiety before and it isn’t a nice feeling.

On a different note . Do you farm/ not or what do you work at ?
I have drystock farm and I also do contracting I used to sell and repair machinery but had a heart attack and had to cut back ,I find the silage cutting tough when I'm in bad form but I love it when I'm in good form
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
I have drystock farm and I also do contracting I used to sell and repair machinery but had a heart attack and had to cut back ,I find the silage cutting tough when I'm in bad form but I love it when I'm in good form
Being Bipolar must make farming extremely difficult. In farming jobs often can't wait and sometimes you'll just not be in the right frame of mind. I'm amazed you cope at all, credit to you.
 
Good morning Fiat 9090,

although none of us can know exactly how you feel, we are aware of our own struggles and tribulations and can perhaps 'relate' to how you are presently feeling.

I was pleased to read that you are having professional support and have already made some lifestyle changes to assist in stabilising things. I don't know if you keep a diet diary but it can be one thing worth doing, What we eat can often affect our moods and for me it tends to be alcohol, caffeine, gluten, and certain artificial food additives. Not much left after that lot, is there? Gluten, unfortunately, is the most problematic for me and I now avoid it like the plague,

It's always good to hear from you and your input is as supportive for the rest of us as you may find it is for your self. I think the professionals call it co-dependency.

Chris :)
 

fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire
Good morning Fiat 9090,

although none of us can know exactly how you feel, we are aware of our own struggles and tribulations and can perhaps 'relate' to how you are presently feeling.

I was pleased to read that you are having professional support and have already made some lifestyle changes to assist in stabilising things. I don't know if you keep a diet diary but it can be one thing worth doing, What we eat can often affect our moods and for me it tends to be alcohol, caffeine, gluten, and certain artificial food additives. Not much left after that lot, is there? Gluten, unfortunately, is the most problematic for me and I now avoid it like the plague,

It's always good to hear from you and your input is as supportive for the rest of us as you may find it is for your self. I think the professionals call it co-dependency.

Chris :)
The diet diary that's a new one for me
 
You just keep track of what you eat, you also keep an eye on your emotional levels, and then see if there are any dips or peaks in your emotional levels coincide with having digested 'A' 'B' or 'X'.

Not quite Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde but should I consume gluten filled products I find that even small problems become magnified and I also can become over sensitive and easily irritated. Consume drinks with aspartame and other additives and I wake up feeling somewhat worried and depressed over minor events.

Sounds a bit silly, I know, but worth keeping a diary just to see if any psychological/emotional problems could be linked to anything in ones diet.

Chris :) (y)
 

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