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Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)
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Yes and this is why I emphasized the importance of relationship with family members and friends, they make your life much more comfy, even only talking to them about your problems makes you relaxed, feeling their support behind you removes the stress.
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I have given up digging down to drains except where we have previously installed sand traps and jetting pits which provide some stability. You are right, it's too wet to open an unsupported hole. These will have to wait.
The problem is the contractor laid the header (years ago) a bit flat and it tends to fill with sand and run slow. The laterals then also back up and the junctions tend to get tree roots as its adjacent to a wood. Only jetted it two years ago but this wet spell has really tested it.
Hand pulling beet gets very tiresome very quickly. We pulled some fodder beet that got too big for the machine (about 10 tonnes, took a week) where the drill ran out and left them gappy but I presently have 250 tonnes of sugar beet out there that I can't harvest without bogging down. There is time yet. A dry fortnight would probably see the water drain enough even through the slow system but what I don't want is the frost that tends to come with a dry time in winter.
Worse things happen at sea and plenty of folks here with hundreds of acres of spuds not lifted and no drilling done so I can't complain. It's just wearing and we could all do with an upturn.
Christoph1945
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Who was it that said ……. into every life a little rain must fall? 
Some folk are just about up to their ears in things that we are just unable to see, or comprehend, and consequently are unable to understand why they act the way that they do. If I can forget my self and my troubles and ask of the other 'how are things with you today?, and then listen intently for the intonations of their reply and then 'perhaps' I can help their troubles subside just a little. Interestingly, when I do, my own troubles commence to shrink; if only for a short while.
On a number of occasions I have observed groups of offenders doing pay-back duties by clearing beaches and towns of rubbish and I am wondering if such a group, if large enough, could lift and clear beet from flooded fields and what the costs would be. Silly out of the box thinking, I suppose!
Some folk are just about up to their ears in things that we are just unable to see, or comprehend, and consequently are unable to understand why they act the way that they do. If I can forget my self and my troubles and ask of the other 'how are things with you today?, and then listen intently for the intonations of their reply and then 'perhaps' I can help their troubles subside just a little. Interestingly, when I do, my own troubles commence to shrink; if only for a short while.
On a number of occasions I have observed groups of offenders doing pay-back duties by clearing beaches and towns of rubbish and I am wondering if such a group, if large enough, could lift and clear beet from flooded fields and what the costs would be. Silly out of the box thinking, I suppose!
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On a number of occasions I have observed groups of offenders doing pay-back duties by clearing beaches and towns of rubbish and I am wondering if such a group, if large enough, could lift and clear beet from flooded fields and what the costs would be. Silly out of the box thinking, I suppose!
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They would consider suicide LoL. The perspective.
Christoph1945
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TFR...….are you really Turkish?
Yes I am Turkish and Turk with North-Central Asian roots, why ?
Christoph1945
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Just interested; I once live
Just interested. I once lived and worked in Turkey, close to Izmit, for seven months way back in the seventies; when men walked down the backs of their shoes and sheep were still sacrificed on special occasions. Saw the spring rains there, when clay from the hills was washed down into the Marmara and turned it reddish brown. I was in Istanbul just prior to marshal law being declared and people were shot dead in the streets of the city and the pontoons of the Galata Bridge were withdrawn to keep back the marchers.
Loved the food and the people but couldn't stay any longer than seven months but have returned a couple of times for holidays.
I have read that whole families in Turkey have been commiting suicide but as of yet I do not know any details; other than some are trying to politicise the events.
Stay safe, stay well, and please feel at home with us.
May the peace of Allah flow through you.
Chris
Just interested. I once lived and worked in Turkey, close to Izmit, for seven months way back in the seventies; when men walked down the backs of their shoes and sheep were still sacrificed on special occasions. Saw the spring rains there, when clay from the hills was washed down into the Marmara and turned it reddish brown. I was in Istanbul just prior to marshal law being declared and people were shot dead in the streets of the city and the pontoons of the Galata Bridge were withdrawn to keep back the marchers.
Loved the food and the people but couldn't stay any longer than seven months but have returned a couple of times for holidays.
I have read that whole families in Turkey have been commiting suicide but as of yet I do not know any details; other than some are trying to politicise the events.
Stay safe, stay well, and please feel at home with us.
May the peace of Allah flow through you.
Chris
Just interested; I once live
Just interested. I once lived and worked in Turkey, close to Izmit, for seven months way back in the seventies; when men walked down the backs of their shoes and sheep were still sacrificed on special occasions. Saw the spring rains there, when clay from the hills was washed down into the Marmara and turned it reddish brown. I was in Istanbul just prior to marshal law being declared and people were shot dead in the streets of the city and the pontoons of the Galata Bridge were withdrawn to keep back the marchers.
Loved the food and the people but couldn't stay any longer than seven months but have returned a couple of times for holidays.
I have read that whole families in Turkey have been commiting suicide but as of yet I do not know any details; other than some are trying to politicise the events.
Stay safe, stay well, and please feel at home with us.
May the peace of Allah flow through you.
Chris
Does not sound like it was a correct timing to be there in Istanbul : ) Countries are devoloping forward while people are developing backward. Today you can find a better environment than seventies but worse human relationship as well. These recent suicides are actually murders, so a family member decides to suicide but he/she also murders other family members too and these kind of events are manipulated by politicians as usual as you mentioned.
Thanks for your kind words.
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Who was it that said ……. into every life a little rain must fall?
Some folk are just about up to their ears in things that we are just unable to see, or comprehend, and consequently are unable to understand why they act the way that they do. If I can forget my self and my troubles and ask of the other 'how are things with you today?, and then listen intently for the intonations of their reply and then 'perhaps' I can help their troubles subside just a little. Interestingly, when I do, my own troubles commence to shrink; if only for a short while.
On a number of occasions I have observed groups of offenders doing pay-back duties by clearing beaches and towns of rubbish and I am wondering if such a group, if large enough, could lift and clear beet from flooded fields and what the costs would be. Silly out of the box thinking, I suppose!
It's not a bad idea per se, but would need a sea change in thinking to enact it. Dad remembered being drafted in to lift carrots during national service days during a wet Autumn back in the 1950's. His commander volunteered the men to the local farmer when he noticed he was struggling.
I still hope to clear the drains and get on again with the machine. It is of course "economically" non viable to harvest the beet by hand for any payment. We get paid 1 penny for each beet I worked out you would need to lift 2000 per hour to get minimum wage.
Anyway I feel positive and optimistic today and am busy welding to finish the modifications to the cleaner loader machine in time for the arrival of the lorry on Monday to move what has been harvested to the factory.
Best wishes to All.
Christoph1945
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1p per beet!
Are your beets for animal feedstock, or for a sugar refinery?
Are your beets for animal feedstock, or for a sugar refinery?
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1p per beet!
Are your beets for animal feedstock, or for a sugar refinery?
They are for the sugar refinery. £22 per ton. 16% sugar in the beet. I think they take in 11,000 tons of beet per day at the factory (Newark) for this region. The scale of the operation is awesome and impressive. Proper industry.
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Anyway, I stayed in last night stroking the cat in front of the fire instead of hitting the booze either at home or down the pub. I have therefore avoided sinking into my usual weekend post booze depression and can function and think clearly and enjoy things.
Alcohol is a tricky thing. Big boost and escape but then fall into a trough.
Note to self : Avoid.
But easier said than done after a difficult week. Alcohol was always a tool to overcome my social interaction difficulties but the mental side effects are now much worse than the benefits.
Alcohol is a tricky thing. Big boost and escape but then fall into a trough.
Note to self : Avoid.
But easier said than done after a difficult week. Alcohol was always a tool to overcome my social interaction difficulties but the mental side effects are now much worse than the benefits.
Christoph1945
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I had suspected that murder/suicide could be the case for one of the recent family group deaths in Istanbul. Our son's ex-partner committed suicide some time ago, leaving five children motherless and a new partner to try and pick up the pieces.
It was a great blessing that she didn't take the children with her on that final journey but there are still so many unanswered questions.
This is sad, she cant overcome the stress and cant think healthy. Family is soo important.
Christoph1945
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Sounds like a superb start to me and I look forward to reading more of your progress and how you get on with the beet harvest.
What do they do with all that sugar ?
Im happy to have a beer but sugar in tea etc is a no no. Apart from rotting yer teeth ,
Especially in tea or coffee with caffeine it seems to make a demon combination. Twice as addictive etc
Chocolate as well in the evening ie if I'm not burning it off, doesnt help me for restfullness that's fer sure.
Im happy to have a beer but sugar in tea etc is a no no. Apart from rotting yer teeth ,
Especially in tea or coffee with caffeine it seems to make a demon combination. Twice as addictive etc
Chocolate as well in the evening ie if I'm not burning it off, doesnt help me for restfullness that's fer sure.
Shavings man
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So true Chriss.
Christoph1945
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Just had a somewhat silly thought. When one thinks of depression as the 'Black Dog', is it a dog, or a bitch? Not that it matters!
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