Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

theboytheboy

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Arable Farmer
Location
Portsmouth
We all know you were both out at an all night rave to see in the New Year🤫
There is an amusing song about an old chap that sneaks out to see rock bands. It's called "Albert went out to see Rock Bands" by Gavin Osbourne.

I think it's funny and touching and I was reminded of it when I picture @Christoph1945 out raving. Have a listen and hopefully a smile or laugh.

 
Woke up feeling a 'little' rough this morning but tested negative for Covid for the second day running; as did Margaret for the first day but alas she is still struggling somewhat.

Fresh start tomorrow but believing that it is possible to be reinfected we must not let our guards down for the second time and be much more cautious with our socializing and shopping etc.

Take care out there folks; make sure that you get all your Covid jabs and don't, whatever you do, forget hands, face, and space.

Chris :)
 
@Christoph1945 ~ you're in my thoughts and wishing you both a speedy and of greatest importance, a full recovery.

Progressing quite nicely my friend but I must say that sixteen days of total isolation was quite testing for both of us but we had well stocked food cupboards and our daughter and a family friend dropped a couple of items on the doorstep. Of course, the internet, skype, house phone, and mobile made keeping in touch with potential support much easier.

I'm guessing that some folks will suffer post Covid depression but I think that mine came on at the commencement of the initial infection but past experience and TFF support helped weather me through that very easily.
 
Went out chainsawing the other day and then went and collected it all today. Several lumps I probably should have cut up a bit thinner but I loaded it all up and haven't put my back out and I've felt to make sure I don't have any additional lumps or protuberances so all is well. Felt better for it. Nice fresh air and even the sun was out today.

My head however is well out of whack and my medical odyssey is going to end I think. I'm still searching for something else to do and have put my CV together during moments where I can find some focus. and I've even begin to apply for various things, anything that seems to stand out in the morass of stuff I find on the web. In some ways I feel quite excited by it all. I think that there will always be a piece of me that wonders a little bit but if you aren't enjoying something then you aren't enjoying it and its difficult to ever convince yourself otherwise.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Went out chainsawing the other day and then went and collected it all today. Several lumps I probably should have cut up a bit thinner but I loaded it all up and haven't put my back out and I've felt to make sure I don't have any additional lumps or protuberances so all is well. Felt better for it. Nice fresh air and even the sun was out today.

My head however is well out of whack and my medical odyssey is going to end I think. I'm still searching for something else to do and have put my CV together during moments where I can find some focus. and I've even begin to apply for various things, anything that seems to stand out in the morass of stuff I find on the web. In some ways I feel quite excited by it all. I think that there will always be a piece of me that wonders a little bit but if you aren't enjoying something then you aren't enjoying it and its difficult to ever convince yourself otherwise.

Your post just reminded me of this disco band from my youth and this seems kind of appropriate 🤔

 

Texel Tup

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
@czechmate - this very track always reminds me of all the pain, with me as the originator. It's easy enough to see the applications, and not to like ourselves too much, sometimes, isn't it?

The eternal question though, is do we stay where we are because it tends to be the easy route, or do we gather ourselves up and accept that if there's an alternative to unhappiness, then we take it …….. tricky, isn't it?
 
@czechmate - this very track always reminds me of all the pain, with me as the originator. It's easy enough to see the applications, and not to like ourselves too much, sometimes, isn't it?

The eternal question though, is do we stay where we are because it tends to be the easy route, or do we gather ourselves up and accept that if there's an alternative to unhappiness, then we take it …….. tricky, isn't it?

Several years ago I was writing up my CV and I took some advice off a very wise man, a neighbour actually, and more importantly, he was a Kiwi.

He very kindly suggested that I put my CV my way to look over it and rightly pointed out that it was nowhere near good enough and that British people generally find it very very difficult to 'sell themselves' as so many of us, me included, are often quite reserved and too modest by half. Some corrective action and it looks a lot better these days.
 

Texel Tup

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
I've work to do but I just can't bring myself to do it. It almost feels like I'm scared to do it yet I've no reason to. Hopefully that makes sense.

It makes perfect sense. I remember how I used to dread doing my VAT returns, but the truly ludicrous aspect to my resistance was that as I was farming, the payments invariably came back to me, and when it was done, I felt a sense of achievement ~ but still I would avoid it.

I would (and to a certain extent still do) roll out the resistance and probably not shave or clean my teeth for 4 or 5 days …….. but yet again, end up feeling so much better when these usual and simple tasks were completed. Why? F**k knows! :D

I often wonder how we actually feel about ourselves when the results of our actions achieve no more than to hurt ourselves. Is depression no more than an expression of anger which we direct at ourselves? Would the logic not seem to be that perhaps we listen to ourselves? …….. I haven't the faintest idea, but I do know this ~ you have taken two important steps, you've recognised hat there is a problem, and you've taken steps to secure help. Well done.

We all need the trinity of Faith ~ Hope and Charity; we need Faith in ourselves, we need Hope for without that we are lost and we need Charity ~ we need to be kind to ourselves. We need to take the stick which we beat ourselves with and use it to light a fire.
 

cornishking

Member
Arable Farmer
It makes perfect sense. I remember how I used to dread doing my VAT returns, but the truly ludicrous aspect to my resistance was that as I was farming, the payments invariably came back to me, and when it was done, I felt a sense of achievement ~ but still I would avoid it.

I would (and to a certain extent still do) roll out the resistance and probably not shave or clean my teeth for 4 or 5 days …….. but yet again, end up feeling so much better when these usual and simple tasks were completed. Why? F**k knows! :D

I often wonder how we actually feel about ourselves when the results of our actions achieve no more than to hurt ourselves. Is depression no more than an expression of anger which we direct at ourselves? Would the logic not seem to be that perhaps we listen to ourselves? …….. I haven't the faintest idea, but I do know this ~ you have taken two important steps, you've recognised hat there is a problem, and you've taken steps to secure help. Well done.

We all need the trinity of Faith ~ Hope and Charity; we need Faith in ourselves, we need Hope for without that we are lost and we need Charity ~ we need to be kind to ourselves. We need to take the stick which we beat ourselves with and use it to light a fire.
I am the same, it is very peculiar but my therapist calls it "self sabotage". I prefer to call it "Self Harming", alcohol and finances are my "go to" methods of self harm.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
^^All of the above posts is exactly how I feel. Particularly the VAT return. It’s not difficult, it brings money back but takes me about 10 days to get down to starting then it’s done in an hour.
I don’t get a hair cut for weeks as I just can’t motivate myself to go to town to see a barber shop. End up a dishevelled wreck then finally I’ll get myself sorted out.
The thing about this job is the “to do” list never clears. You never finish.
With a serious illness in the family now that I can’t go into at this time, 2022 just continues the run of utter crap that has typified the last 4 years for me. I’m stable though. Just don’t think things can really get much lower on the personal front so just keep plodding along hoping for an eventual improvement. The farming is going OK though. Keeps me going.
 

wrenbird

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Livestock Farmer
Location
HR2
The inertia of anxiety, unfortunately I know it well. Some advise making a list and ticking off jobs completed, I find that counter-productive, all my lists do is just scream loudly back at me how useless and inadequate I am.
I think, like spin cycle says, if you can complete one task, it helps. I have actually taken to writing down jobs I have done, helps more than looking at what I haven’t done.
 

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