Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)
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glasshouse
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- lothians
Sadly i know how that feels
Christoph1945
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- Widnes West Cheshire
Sad; an other one slipped through the net! Do you know if he left a note and how, or why, he chose to go? 
Christoph1945
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Let's not forget the poor soul who had to find him!
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- Penzance
I'm so sorry to hear that. Thinking of you all xx
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- Cornwall
Pinch off FB, on a duchy college page but don't know anything more about them
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- Lincolnshire
You aren't alone if you don't find Christmas particularly merry. It's dark, it's cold, it's wet, it's a materialistic binge dressed up in religious hypocracy. It's enforced merriment that I usually fail at. Give me 2 days of light duties, rest and reflection and beans on toast any day. I'll be merry as when. I feel like it which isn't necessarily now, and I make no apology for that.
Christoph1945
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- Widnes West Cheshire
You could try mushy peas on toast for a change!
Christoph1945
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Oh, and stop reading my mind!
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- Lincolnshire
Sorry for the low mood. Fairly upset to learn today a mates daughter is seriously ill. Lovely girl who works so hard. All her life in front of her. Been a rock to her family in difficult times for them. Makes all the "merry Christmas" stuff seem so inappropriate. Anyway all is being done that can be done so that's something.
But the presumptiousness and tactlessness of the merry Christmas thing grates a bit at this time.
But the presumptiousness and tactlessness of the merry Christmas thing grates a bit at this time.
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- Lincolnshire
Anorexia. At Christmas. Heart breaking. Sorry for offloading that. Hopefully things can only get better now.
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- Cornwall
No need to apologise on here, hope all goes well for her
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- North Norfolk
Never apologise when there's no need - your mountain may well be a molehill for another - but it's still your mountain.
Part of the problem is Christmas - we are SUPPOSED to be enjoying ourselves, this is SUPPOSED to be a time when we put our problems behind us and when we share in a time of peace and love - - and sometimes, just sometimes, for many, it just F****** WELL isn't. - - then it's the guilt trip which we set off on - that toboggan run without brakes.
Anorexia - I simply don't get it - I've tried, I've imagined what prevailing thoughts we might have to tip us over the edge - but I get nothing. …….. and that is because Anorexia is my molehill. The collateral damage @DrWazzock is that and even though you may not truly understand, you are also knocked about - - - - I do understand.
You're an intelligent man and you 'think', I'm certain. Not just yet perhaps, but in time you will find the answers that you seek.
If Bercow could say Bollox to Brexit - then we can stand up with a Bollox to Christmas - I've decided!
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- North Norfolk
I'm late in to this, my apologies;
You raise interesting observations - analysing and working out for ourselves what troubles us, is one thing - - correcting the balance, like an up-turned sheep (if that makes sense!) is something entirely different, and that takes time.
Anxiety - - what does it achieve? Nothing. I wake some mornings and think of 50 years ago and those who I hurt - it's a burden which has me out of my bed and doing something - it's horrible and whilst concentrating on the morning routine, it usually evaporates. I had a deeply troubled and damaged childhood - there were adults who decided that violence was the answer when clearly all that they achieved was to worsen matters. It really wasn't my fault, but that certain knowledge does nothing to assuage the oppressive level of guilt - or the anxiety.
I can't change it - why worry? - that's of no help at 05:00.
Do we ever work it out for ourselves? Perhaps work in Progress is the best answer.
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- Cornwall
Well said @Texel Tup, well said
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- Lincolnshire
I rationally know this to be true. But it doesn't diminish the effects is has on my day to day life. Although currently I'm cautiously optimistic that I have jettisoned a lot of the triggers.
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- Lincolnshire
Thanks for those wise words of understanding. One good thing about Christmas is we at least slacken off from work for a bit which gives us time to challenge the stereotypes, the religious strait jackets and the false and insincere bonhomie. Many farming neighbours this year are having a fairly low key Christmas more in a mood of somber contemplation and reflection than celebration. The anorexia of my good neighhbour shocked me, upset me and baffled me, appearing like slow suicide in plain sight with just about everyone around them in denial of it as happens with many mental health issues. We are trying to do what we can as a community, which isn't a lot quite frankly but hopefully some progress can be made if we keep talking so that proper medical help can be given. I am not seeking any sympathy for myself here. I don't need it. Just mulling it over and coming to terms with it.
The vicar shakes your hand as you come out of church and wishes you a merry Christmas which is nice of him and you wish him the same but it's all just a veneer on a pretty torrid time for rural communities. I don't think that eating a large turkey is really going to solve anything. I think next year we will just eat normally and try to keep to a reasonable routine. We will meet friends and relatives for a catchup but without the material and logistical pressures which tend to take over and swamp everything.
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- North Norfolk
Brilliant - - one step at a time.
Today and in part we may succeed. Tomorrow in part, we may also collapse - - but collapse is always and only ever, temporary - - if we didn't recover, we wouldn't be here …….. (I hang on to this, I have too).
Think of this, we are told that we have Faith - Hope and Charity - - Q: Which is the most important?
A: Hope, for without that we have nothing.
My sentiments exact , hate this time of year , Had a good old yarn about things other night about stuff , to a tffer was soon round to 3 am , done nothing today ,and already bored ,was going to make a bar stool out of hundreds of old sockets ,got started ,but voltage regulator playing up on mig, and luke at welding place ,away now till next week ,
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- Lincolnshire
The expectations of others for our happiness adds pressure. They want me to be ecstatically happy. I'm quite satisfied with being just OK and bumbling along. I get a bit sick of people trying to force me to be happy. Money, presents, food etc isn't what I need. Just acceptance and space. This usually puts me into miserable old git category, but I am not. I am happy being just OK.