Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

Jackall

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Dear all who read my post on Friday. To put you all straight I used to feel the ups and downs of farming but didn’t ever take medication for it. My reference to the 6drugs I take refer to my condition which is heart failure. When diagnosed I was stage 4. Now with the drugs I’m low 3 which means. My heart only has 40% output of a normal person my age. I live a good life but cannot do a lot of physical work. I hope this explains my situation and stops speculation to me being addicted to drugs
 
It would appear that we are all talking about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. If only we had known what we know now, when we were much younger. How much psychological pain and suffering could we have avoided? How many broken hearts and relationships could we have saved?

We are still called to be child like; not childish! When was the last time that we were amazed by something as simple as turning on a light switch, turning on a tap and getting instant running water, turning a key and a monster of a machine thundering into action and responding to our every demand and direction. Not to mention mobile phones, computers, and Alexas!

If we can stop, relax, listen, and watch; we will be amazed by what we may learn. Even our dreams will surprise us!
 

fiat 9090

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Location
co offaly eire
Dear all who read my post on Friday. To put you all straight I used to feel the ups and downs of farming but didn’t ever take medication for it. My reference to the 6drugs I take refer to my condition which is heart failure. When diagnosed I was stage 4. Now with the drugs I’m low 3 which means. My heart only has 40% output of a normal person my age. I live a good life but cannot do a lot of physical work. I hope this explains my situation and stops speculation to me being addicted to drugs
Of course it does that's why I answered your post ,like you I damaged my heart ,I can't do much physical work either and at this moment I'm in hospital on a heart monitor waiting to get something done
 

Jackall

Member
Of course it does that's why I answered your post ,like you I damaged my heart ,I can't do much physical work either and at this moment I'm in hospital on a heart monitor waiting to get something done
Of course it does that's why I answered your post ,like you I damaged my heart ,I can't do much physical work either and at this moment I'm in hospital on a heart monitor waiting to get something done
 

Crofter64

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Quebec, Canada
The only way I have ever solved difficult problems is by tackling them a step at a time and ignoring what seems like the futility or hopelessness of it and not trying to solve it all at once, rather crossing bridges as we come to them. It's often surprising how things work out if you keep trying and keep working at them. You either have to do that or drop the job completely, write it off and change course.

I have never really found all the positive thinking, lifestyle, relaxation baloney to help much. An old farm worker once told me that "sometimes you just have to take the bull by the horns lad."

Not quite sure what I am driving at, but the things that get me down are things that seem insurmountable. I am learning not to get daunted by the size of the task before I have even started it, but just to start nibbling away at the problems and gradually they are overcome.
I find that if I avoid television especially the news I’m fine. Ever since 9/11 the media hysteria has been hard to take. I am not surprised that people are anxious and depressed. Your approach is very sensible- work away at the things you can control and little by little things will fall into place. If you feel you are totally helpless because the problem is out of your sphere of influence( climate change, being nuked by the N. Koreans,the middle east) that’s when your mind/ spirit can crash.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I find that if I avoid television especially the news I’m fine. Ever since 9/11 the media hysteria has been hard to take. I am not surprised that people are anxious and depressed. Your approach is very sensible- work away at the things you can control and little by little things will fall into place. If you feel you are totally helpless because the problem is out of your sphere of influence( climate change, being nuked by the N. Koreans,the middle east) that’s when your mind/ spirit can crash.

Avoiding looking at the news is something I have found very beneficial. I cannot take on everybody's problems and as you say whats the point of worrying about being nuked when there is nothing we can do about it at our level. To have such doom and gloom drummed into us on a daily basis is unhelpful. In fact nuclear apocalypse was drummed into us all the way through school which wasn't a very cheerful backdrop to daily life.

I also find some TV soap operas and dramas exceedingly depressing. Maybe I overthink them but to be fed a daily diet of scenarios of how your life could go horribly wrong does nothing for morale. We even have a Saturday night drama here based on life in an accident and emergency ward where all sorts of trauma and personal tragedy is acted out in detail. I just don't get it. It will be soon enough to deal with such a scenario if it ever actually happens. I don't need to be reminded of what can go wrong every Saturday night. We never see somebody harvesting a field of wheat on Saturday night with everything going well. If we do ever see such a thing on TV they always have to have a dig about how we are destroying the planet or something. Well at our level we are trying our best. To be constantly undermined and criticised can be extremely wearing and sap confidence.

Hence, while I keep an eye open to what's going on the world around me and am open to new ideas, I mostly now ignore "mainstream " media. And I feel better for it.
 

fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire
I find that if I avoid television especially the news I’m fine. Ever since 9/11 the media hysteria has been hard to take. I am not surprised that people are anxious and depressed. Your approach is very sensible- work away at the things you can control and little by little things will fall into place. If you feel you are totally helpless because the problem is out of your sphere of influence( climate change, being nuked by the N. Koreans,the middle east) that’s when your mind/ spirit can crash.
Yes all tha
Excellent news. I don't even know you, but even I feel better for hearing that. Hope you go on alright.
Thanks I'm very New to this thread but the encouragement ye all have given me since I told my story is brilliant ,and I'm looking forward to being able to do a bit of work ,
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Avoiding looking at the news is something I have found very beneficial. I cannot take on everybody's problems and as you say whats the point of worrying about being nuked when there is nothing we can do about it at our level. To have such doom and gloom drummed into us on a daily basis is unhelpful. In fact nuclear apocalypse was drummed into us all the way through school which wasn't a very cheerful backdrop to daily life.

I also find some TV soap operas and dramas exceedingly depressing. Maybe I overthink them but to be fed a daily diet of scenarios of how your life could go horribly wrong does nothing for morale. We even have a Saturday night drama here based on life in an accident and emergency ward where all sorts of trauma and personal tragedy is acted out in detail. I just don't get it. It will be soon enough to deal with such a scenario if it ever actually happens. I don't need to be reminded of what can go wrong every Saturday night. We never see somebody harvesting a field of wheat on Saturday night with everything going well. If we do ever see such a thing on TV they always have to have a dig about how we are destroying the planet or something. Well at our level we are trying our best. To be constantly undermined and criticised can be extremely wearing and sap confidence.

Hence, while I keep an eye open to what's going on the world around me and am open to new ideas, I mostly now ignore "mainstream " media. And I feel better for it.
They say "ignorance is bliss", they were not far wrong really.
Like you I found it incredibly liberating (and confusing) to simply monitor, rather than immerse myself in, the goings on around the world.
It put me in a much more positive 'headspace' to actually work on what I can do - as opposed to being overwhelmed.

We're all far more emancipated than we think we are, and eating your dinner while being blasted with "mind control" is IMO an unhealthy habit.

Put on some Neil Young and enjoy your food (y)
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Not anymore, New Year's day was surreal here though.
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My wife captured it far better than me.
Apparently the glaciers in the alps are a similar hue
 

fiat 9090

Member
Location
co offaly eire

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