Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

[Juggler]

So, I’ve been taking magnesium tablets for about 3 weeks... I also take vitemim b. I feel so much better and the magnesium is very good. Took a few weeks to get the timing of taking it right. It seriously helps sleep so I take it about 8pm . Can’t recommend it enough ! Less stress, less anxiety, just happier (b helps too )

That's good to know, mind me asking which one's you take, the 400mg magnesium ones? Also is it vit B12 you take? I've wondered if some of my symptoms are due to B12 deficiency.
Also now resigned to the fact that I can't drink alcohol, it has a huge impact on my physical and mental health and I only drink a couple of times a week.

 

[GrannyAching]

Pernicious anemia is really debilitating. The whole checking the colour of your eyelids doesn't tell you anything. It's honestly worth getting a blood test as you might need injections to get your levels up before moving to tablets. Or you might need injections every 12 weeks. If you do have pernicious anemia, getting it sorted will change your life https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamin-b12-or-folate-deficiency-anaemia/symptoms/.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I like the Nutriway supplements, from Amway

Yes, they're expensive, but gosh they're good! Soluble too, unlike something like a centrum tablet which is mostly inert filler, and a big +1 on the Mg capsules too.
I actually got onto them while a dairy farmer, because I noticed how much better I felt and slept after dusting MgO² on pasture over calving time, and put the two together.
Also helps cramp and energy levels @Robt ??

I think it's iron and oxygen in the blood that requires Mg and K levels to be balanced, if I remember correctly - that might be guff, too

It's great when something simple, just a tickle of the system puts you in better control of "self"

 

[ollie989898]

I took vitamins for a while. Two interesting side effects were increased ear wax production and luminous yellow pee.

 

[Chasingmytail]

just be careful (financially) about taking vits. Most of them are expensive yellow pee The money I have spent on Bs, magnesium, 5HTP etc with no effects at all. Oral vitB wont help if you have deficiency you need to get the jab. You can buy them direct however if your bloods come back very normal then its a waste of time. Eating tinned sardines and loads of good veg is better. The trouble with many there is the placebo effect I see it on some forums when people say they have changed their diets and dropped dairy. Its not the non-dairy diet thats made them better its the general cutting out all the shite. Most of the time its a coincidence that there is improvement and Im still skeptical that popping a few vits is going to vitalise you - highly unlikey. The other issue is knowing which types of magnesium to take. Many report taking Citrate improves them but gives them cramps. Some vits do not carry enough in them to make a difference and some you would need to pop so many to get results. Again you are better to get bloods back before knocking the vit pills. Back in the mid 90s I went down with CFS badly, at the time the internet wasnt avail and I read a few books and looked for alternatives I was knocking back so many expensive vits with no improvement at all. Since then I have filled my cupboards with many alternatives. I am better in some ways but still suffer in others.

 

[GrannyAching]

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[krankins]

I was shocked recently by a Dr. mate when discussing the proportion of the population on anti depression drugs. It's not just a farming problem, it is the modern lifestyle problem and isolation, even in a crowd. On a 24 hr clock basis, it was only 10 seconds ago when our ancestors came out of caves and saw that the world has more than about 20 people in it.

 

[DeeGee]

I often think of the very true lyrics of, IIRC, a Bryan Ferry song “loneliness is a crowded room....”

 

[teslacoils]

I have a recurring dream where someone knocks on my door four times. I always wake up, sit in the silence and listen before falling back asleep. But then I dream I'm not asleep and go answer the door, where there is someone or something who invariably kills me. Usually they shoot me in the stomach and leave, and I just slump there looking at my bloodied hands holding my innards in until I die. Then I wake up and have to check in not actually dead.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I often think of the very true lyrics of, IIRC, a Bryan Ferry song “loneliness is a crowded room....”

Me, too! Odd, that one, because I feel that.

I'm much happier "alone" than in a crowd, and by crowd I mean more than 10 people.
People are noisy

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I have a recurring dream where someone knocks on my door four times. I always wake up, sit in the silence and listen before falling back asleep. But then I dream I'm not asleep and go answer the door, where there is someone or something who invariably kills me. Usually they shoot me in the stomach and leave, and I just slump there looking at my bloodied hands holding my innards in until I die. Then I wake up and have to check in not actually dead.

Oh wow. I don't really want to say this, but, "you poor barsteward".

That can't be easy.

I used to have a recurring dream as a kid, but it sas much more pleasant than yours,, and then like a switch was flicked, it stopped. So did dreaming, really.
I seem to go to bed, mess with my phone for a while and then the alarm goes off to wake up again.

I do get a bloody good sleep, fortunately; it wasn't always so.

 

[teslacoils]

Oh wow. I don't really want to say this, but, "you poor barsteward".

That can't be easy.

I used to have a recurring dream as a kid, but it sas much more pleasant than yours,, and then like a switch was flicked, it stopped. So did dreaming, really.
I seem to go to bed, mess with my phone for a while and then the alarm goes off to wake up again.

I do get a bloody good sleep, fortunately; it wasn't always so.

I have night terrors. And dreams where I'm screaming so loudly I wake up and have to check with Mrs teslacoils that I wasn't actually screaming. And lucid dreams. For 27 of my current 40 years.

Teeth growing until I can't breathe.
Falling backwards into a big hole.
Being made to walk down a corridor that gets narrower until I'm stuck.
Various "alone, trapped, in the dark" stuff.

Probably six nights a week. And can recall them in full, vivid detail the next day.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Feck.... I think we all get the "falling" dream sometimes. My wife just about sends us into orbit with the resultant bunny-hop.

That's really crap - what do the experts have to say about the dreams? Would hypnosis help?

 

[teslacoils]

Feck.... I think we all get the "falling" dream sometimes. My wife just about sends us into orbit with the resultant bunny-hop.

That's really crap - what do the experts have to say about the dreams? Would hypnosis help?

It doesn't help. Just brain wiring that makes mountains out of innocuous molehills. I've learnt to avoid experts. Modern life is incompatible with our primitive monkey brains.

 

[Christoph1945]

I have a recurring dream where someone knocks on my door four times. I always wake up, sit in the silence and listen before falling back asleep. But then I dream I'm not asleep and go answer the door, where there is someone or something who invariably kills me. Usually they shoot me in the stomach and leave, and I just slump there looking at my bloodied hands holding my innards in until I die. Then I wake up and have to check in not actually dead.

Jeez, that is a complete new take on 'Behold I stand at the door and knock'!

I have read tell, that with lucid dreaming we can learn to manipulate and control the outcomes of our dreams.

 

[DrWazzock]

Going up on caffeine and coming back down on alcohol seems to have been a pattern for coping with some knotty problems lately. Caffeine is like a turbo helping to power through some difficult problems but the alcohol is the anaesthetic that brings me back down.

 

[GrannyAching]

Going up on caffeine and coming back down on alcohol seems to have been a pattern for coping with some knotty problems lately. Caffeine is like a turbo helping to power through some difficult problems but the alcohol is the anaesthetic that brings me back down.

Well I'm guessing, that if you are aware of what you are doing then you aren't our of control.

I have genuinely found not drinking coffee after lunch time is a big help. Every thing else I drink is caffeine free, mind.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Until I was around 11 I used to get a recurring dream that I was running down a grassy slope being followed by a roll of paper about 20 feet high and 40 feet wide. The dream always ended just as it squashed me flat