Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
Jeez, that is a complete new take on 'Behold I stand at the door and knock'!

I have read tell, that with lucid dreaming we can learn to manipulate and control the outcomes of our dreams.

Yes, this is true. For me it's often a dream as normal, then there is an instant moment of "ah, this is a dream, let's just try this". As my dreams are fairly recurrent - dwarf carpark for example - it allows for the possibility of making decisions while I dream. Dwarf carpark is a dream where I am driving around a city, usually Birmingham, in a red convertable. Essentially I am lost and need to find a carpark. The carpark is a multistory with a long Ramp down at which point you gain access to the secret realm of the dwarves. It's more a recurring backdrop - I often pick up random passengers and can do a variety of things. It's like Minecraft.....in your brain....that you remember.....and occasionally die in.....in gruesome ways.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
why do elephants paint their toenails red?
I have no idea but......
Well it’s a funny old life. At one time people got married, had kids, retired in a nice pension and played golf or something. Or so it seemed. But it all seems to have changed somehow. Due to difficulties of social interaction married late and no kids. My mates kids are both gay so takes some getting used to. The oldies are baffled by it all more than anything. I just keep rolling along till somebody tells me I have to stop. I have this recurring dream that my ex has come back then cruelly I wake up. My ex had been dumped and when we split she seemed to get rid of the pain of being dumped by dumping me then before I married my wife she sent a message saying she wanted to get back together but it was too late. I have felt pretty screwed up ever since but I suppress it and immerse myself in the comfort of routine and work. But can’t suppress the nightmares/dreams. I have female confidantes who listen to all this crap but ultimately I respect my wife as a good woman. Life forks you over big time. It did my parents, it has me, it does us all. What can you say? Crack on and ignore the subconscious dreams and stuff that only seeks to torment us with ifs and buts.
 

choochter

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Location
aberdeenshire
I have no idea but......
Well it’s a funny old life. At one time people got married, had kids, retired in a nice pension and played golf or something. Or so it seemed. But it all seems to have changed somehow. Due to difficulties of social interaction married late and no kids. My mates kids are both gay so takes some getting used to. The oldies are baffled by it all more than anything. I just keep rolling along till somebody tells me I have to stop. I have this recurring dream that my ex has come back then cruelly I wake up. My ex had been dumped and when we split she seemed to get rid of the pain of being dumped by dumping me then before I married my wife she sent a message saying she wanted to get back together but it was too late. I have felt pretty screwed up ever since but I suppress it and immerse myself in the comfort of routine and work. But can’t suppress the nightmares/dreams. I have female confidantes who listen to all this crap but ultimately I respect my wife as a good woman. Life forks you over big time. It did my parents, it has me, it does us all. What can you say? Crack on and ignore the subconscious dreams and stuff that only seeks to torment us with ifs and buts.
There are very few people whose lives are ideal - yes, there are a few lucky ones (and it is luck).
Mostly people have lives peppered with trouble, within families which are rarely normal.
You just have to try and do the best you can.
Life contains lots of happy times too. It helps to be optimistic.






So they can hide up cherry trees
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Yes, this is true. For me it's often a dream as normal, then there is an instant moment of "ah, this is a dream, let's just try this". As my dreams are fairly recurrent - dwarf carpark for example - it allows for the possibility of making decisions while I dream. Dwarf carpark is a dream where I am driving around a city, usually Birmingham, in a red convertable. Essentially I am lost and need to find a carpark. The carpark is a multistory with a long Ramp down at which point you gain access to the secret realm of the dwarves. It's more a recurring backdrop - I often pick up random passengers and can do a variety of things. It's like Minecraft.....in your brain....that you remember.....and occasionally die in.....in gruesome ways.

dreams are lying toads. I have come to the conclusion that they are similar to oppressive religions. They don’t signify repressed thoughts or emotions, they are like salesmen that promise the unattainable or bully us with threats that are bollox.
 
Yes, this is true. For me it's often a dream as normal, then there is an instant moment of "ah, this is a dream, let's just try this". As my dreams are fairly recurrent - dwarf carpark for example - it allows for the possibility of making decisions while I dream. Dwarf carpark is a dream where I am driving around a city, usually Birmingham, in a red convertable. Essentially I am lost and need to find a carpark. The carpark is a multistory with a long Ramp down at which point you gain access to the secret realm of the dwarves. It's more a recurring backdrop - I often pick up random passengers and can do a variety of things. It's like Minecraft.....in your brain....that you remember.....and occasionally die in.....in gruesome ways.

I have learned that our subconscious often messages us in dreams but can tend to do so via innuendos and cryptic puzzles. I believe that our dreamtimes are rather similar to a computer's defragmentation and virus checks. Recurring dreams 'perhaps' cary more importance for us than the general run-of-the-mill dreams.

Out of curiosity, whilst driving around Birmingham in your red dream car are you driving around to your left?
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
I have no idea but......
Well it’s a funny old life. At one time people got married, had kids, retired in a nice pension and played golf or something. Or so it seemed. But it all seems to have changed somehow. Due to difficulties of social interaction married late and no kids. My mates kids are both gay so takes some getting used to. The oldies are baffled by it all more than anything. I just keep rolling along till somebody tells me I have to stop. I have this recurring dream that my ex has come back then cruelly I wake up. My ex had been dumped and when we split she seemed to get rid of the pain of being dumped by dumping me then before I married my wife she sent a message saying she wanted to get back together but it was too late. I have felt pretty screwed up ever since but I suppress it and immerse myself in the comfort of routine and work. But can’t suppress the nightmares/dreams. I have female confidantes who listen to all this crap but ultimately I respect my wife as a good woman. Life forks you over big time. It did my parents, it has me, it does us all. What can you say? Crack on and ignore the subconscious dreams and stuff that only seeks to torment us with ifs and buts.


I’m not sure it was ever that simple.
I had a conversation with my mum a few weeks back. I didn’t know but my mums mums dad (would of been my great grandad) died in front of a train when my grandma was about 14. So this was about 1910. My grandma was the eldest of 12 so that was the end of her childhood and she had to help look after all her brothers and sisters. I only remember this grandma as miserable and grumpy. My mum was saying that her mum said the dad committed suicide and my mum was saying why would he with 12 kids to look after. My response was “why wouldn’t he!”

Dr., I hope you manage to successfully keep these thought from your wife.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Most of my dreams are about self doubt, muck raking over stuff best forgotten etc and should be permanently deleted from my hard drive.
I really do get sick of the drivel and tripe my brain comes out with. It’s not helpful. I need to get on and stop churning stuff over.
 
I can recall having several childhood nightmares that depicted a skeleton rising up from the ground and attacking my father with an implement that was used to rake out the ashes from under the living room fireplace. I can also recall confusing the word razor with raker.

A none-dream memory is sitting on my father's knee and fingering some white cotton bandages on his wrists but as far as I know I wasn't aware (at that time) that dad had slashed his own wrists, in an attempt to commit suicide. No doubt, my subconscious must have picked up on the story of dad's attempted suicide and the facts, although distorted, leaked out in childhood nightmares.
 

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