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Do you keep yourself well topped up with water (not that nasty town stuff if you can avoid it :wtf:)
Dehydration is seemingly a fairly big deal when it comes to making your head work properly.

I don't think that dehydration is too much of a problem but could probably do with drinking more water. Although we have a constant, clean, water supply we tend to buy in bottled water for drinking and cooking. Come January we may get our water supply tested for lead content and see if there may be a contamination problem in the piped water supply.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Well Pete, at least you are one those arseholes that the sun shines out of! Happy New Year to you and to all who have listened to on this thread.👍
Thankyou, mate.

Same to you guys - 2020 has been the best year yet for our clan. Here's to better things to come.

I went out about 10 minutes before midnight, saw the fireworks at the beach, messaged Mum (will probably be her last year on earth, but she could surprise us) and came home. Had a good lie-in listening to the music of rain on tin and shifted the mob. A lazy day planned
 
Mightent be any of you left by then :nailbiting:

An interesting line; had you said there mightent be many of 'us' left by then I would have been concerned for your frame of mind!

Don't forget that the £50 million a day that we were giving the EU can now help fund the NHS to fight Covid and maybe even banish the Black Dog of depression from our land; I saw it on the side of a big red buss! ;)
 

12 bore

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Hi all wishing everyone a happy new year, I'm hoping someone may be able to help. I'm after some advice on anxiety, panic attacks. I have suffered in relative silence with this for some time now with only my wife knowing and I posted on here some time ago. I thought I had got on top of it but lately it just seems to be spiralling out of control. It's almost worse when I haven't got something to focus on and as soon as I relax I start thinking, mind goes in to overdrive and I start to get anxious. It's started to affect sleep lately which has never happened before. To top that I'm a bit OCD constantly checking for fear of doing or something going wrong so my mind is in overdrive constantly. Something small can trigger it and then before I know it and then I can feel myself building up to the point where it boils over and a panic attack comes on which is quite frightening, heart quickens just an overwhelming feeling of fear. With breathing deeply I can slow heart rate and then eventually the feeling of dread eases. I have been to GP before with it and got heart checked which was all fine.
I was prescribed medication before and I think I'm going to have to go back to GP but has anyone on here who suffers with this any advice on how to deal with the it, coping tips. I'm at the end of my tether.
 

spin cycle

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Hi all wishing everyone a happy new year, I'm hoping someone may be able to help. I'm after some advice on anxiety, panic attacks. I have suffered in relative silence with this for some time now with only my wife knowing and I posted on here some time ago. I thought I had got on top of it but lately it just seems to be spiralling out of control. It's almost worse when I haven't got something to focus on and as soon as I relax I start thinking, mind goes in to overdrive and I start to get anxious. It's started to affect sleep lately which has never happened before. To top that I'm a bit OCD constantly checking for fear of doing or something going wrong so my mind is in overdrive constantly. Something small can trigger it and then before I know it and then I can feel myself building up to the point where it boils over and a panic attack comes on which is quite frightening, heart quickens just an overwhelming feeling of fear. With breathing deeply I can slow heart rate and then eventually the feeling of dread eases. I have been to GP before with it and got heart checked which was all fine.
I was prescribed medication before and I think I'm going to have to go back to GP but has anyone on here who suffers with this any advice on how to deal with the it, coping tips. I'm at the end of my tether.

my late dad suffered decades like that:(.......it wasn't til i was diagnosed with depression and was sorted with citalopram that he very gradually changed his mind on taking meds and his last years were better

i'm guessing you think of something that could go wrong then exaggerate it onwards hoping to think a solution out but it just gets worse?

it's a normal problem and treatable:) .....go see your gp and tell them what you've told us.....good luck and take heart:love:
 

12 bore

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my late dad suffered decades like that:(.......it wasn't til i was diagnosed with depression and was sorted with citalopram that he very gradually changed his mind on taking meds and his last years were better

i'm guessing you think of something that could go wrong then exaggerate it onwards hoping to think a solution out but it just gets worse?

it's a normal problem and treatable:) .....go see your gp and tell them what you've told us.....good luck and take heart:love:
Yes I over think things massively and worry about making a mistake or letting the people I love down. It plays over and over and before I know it I'm just in a mess.
I will take your advice and speak to GP, I just want to get it under control I realise it's part of me and will never fully go away I appreciate the reply, thank you
 

spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
Yes I over think things massively and worry about making a mistake or letting the people I love down. It plays over and over and before I know it I'm just in a mess.
I will take your advice and speak to GP, I just want to get it under control I realise it's part of me and will never fully go away I appreciate the reply, thank you


i'm prone to doing the same..my meds help me.....so much so that if i start thinking like that i can now recognize and deal with it :)......pm me if you like :)
 
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12 bore

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i'm prone to doing the same..my meds help me.....so much so that if i start thinking like that i can now recognize and deal with it :)......pm me if you like :)
Thank you for that, I may well do, I guess that's what I want just to be able to realise when it's happening before it gets to that point where I lose control of it.
 
Hi all wishing everyone a happy new year, I'm hoping someone may be able to help. I'm after some advice on anxiety, panic attacks. I have suffered in relative silence with this for some time now with only my wife knowing and I posted on here some time ago. I thought I had got on top of it but lately it just seems to be spiralling out of control. It's almost worse when I haven't got something to focus on and as soon as I relax I start thinking, mind goes in to overdrive and I start to get anxious. It's started to affect sleep lately which has never happened before. To top that I'm a bit OCD constantly checking for fear of doing or something going wrong so my mind is in overdrive constantly. Something small can trigger it and then before I know it and then I can feel myself building up to the point where it boils over and a panic attack comes on which is quite frightening, heart quickens just an overwhelming feeling of fear. With breathing deeply I can slow heart rate and then eventually the feeling of dread eases. I have been to GP before with it and got heart checked which was all fine.
I was prescribed medication before and I think I'm going to have to go back to GP but has anyone on here who suffers with this any advice on how to deal with the it, coping tips. I'm at the end of my tether.

Your post reads like you already have things coming under control and you are revealing a level of understanding that will help and support you. Sharing matters with your wife is a big bonus and I quite like your suggestion of controlled breathing; you could try counting the breaths, it can distract the over active mind.

Please don't hesitate to contact and talk things through with your GP and don't forget that there are a number of support agencies ready and willing to give their time to listen to whatever you wish to talk about.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Hi all wishing everyone a happy new year, I'm hoping someone may be able to help. I'm after some advice on anxiety, panic attacks. I have suffered in relative silence with this for some time now with only my wife knowing and I posted on here some time ago. I thought I had got on top of it but lately it just seems to be spiralling out of control. It's almost worse when I haven't got something to focus on and as soon as I relax I start thinking, mind goes in to overdrive and I start to get anxious. It's started to affect sleep lately which has never happened before. To top that I'm a bit OCD constantly checking for fear of doing or something going wrong so my mind is in overdrive constantly. Something small can trigger it and then before I know it and then I can feel myself building up to the point where it boils over and a panic attack comes on which is quite frightening, heart quickens just an overwhelming feeling of fear. With breathing deeply I can slow heart rate and then eventually the feeling of dread eases. I have been to GP before with it and got heart checked which was all fine.
I was prescribed medication before and I think I'm going to have to go back to GP but has anyone on here who suffers with this any advice on how to deal with the it, coping tips. I'm at the end of my tether.
What are your first signs that an attack's imminent?
My wife doesn't drink alcohol anymore because that seems to be when the really bad attacks get her -similar symptoms to a seizure/fit, can't speak, convulsions, "weird eyes", and hand tremors that can even involve her pulling her hair out or scratching welts in her forehead

they used to be bad, now not so bad because she's got a few lorazepam to calm the farm when she feels one coming on.
I have stashes of them in the vehicles and in a couple of places in the house as by the time she realises it's coming, all she can do is point

We thought it was epilepsy for a start

The alcohol thing is interesting because it must unlock some buried feelings of trauma or loss of control from years gone by, and apparently the mind triggers the "panic attack" as a way out.

Scary as heck to watch the first time or two, a couple of our friends were freaked out to the point they've not been back (good job!)
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Mightent be any of you left by then :nailbiting:
we're tougher than you might think😬

covid is the biggest challenge atm , trying to avoid it :bag:
so many people in a smaller space makes that a bit of job.

just taking one day at time is the only way i guess.(y)
Edit :i just wish they would shut the schools around here ....:rolleyes:
 
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12 bore

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What are your first signs that an attack's imminent?
My wife doesn't drink alcohol anymore because that seems to be when the really bad attacks get her -similar symptoms to a seizure/fit, can't speak, convulsions, "weird eyes", and hand tremors that can even involve her pulling her hair out or scratching welts in her forehead

they used to be bad, now not so bad because she's got a few lorazepam to calm the farm when she feels one coming on.
I have stashes of them in the vehicles and in a couple of places in the house as by the time she realises it's coming, all she can do is point

We thought it was epilepsy for a start

The alcohol thing is interesting because it must unlock some buried feelings of trauma or loss of control from years gone by, and apparently the mind triggers the "panic attack" as a way out.

Scary as heck to watch the first time or two, a couple of our friends were freaked out to the point they've not been back (good job!)
It generally starts as a feeling of sort of deep fear from the pit of my stomach I then feel very tense and that when I know it's coming. Then I can feel my heart beating faster. My head instantly thinks heart attack! Which then makes it worse but I have found if I pick a spot just stare and take deep breaths I can lower my heart rate again which then helps everything else to ease off.
Funny you mention alcohol, I have drunk more over the past few weeks being Christmas and it has been particularly bad lately. Generally triggers are things changing in every day life, can be fairly random, stresses at work play a big part and it's normally after the situation has happened the anxiety is worse almost like because it's over and my mind isn't racing anymore it takes over
 
Hi all wishing everyone a happy new year, I'm hoping someone may be able to help. I'm after some advice on anxiety, panic attacks. I have suffered in relative silence with this for some time now with only my wife knowing and I posted on here some time ago. I thought I had got on top of it but lately it just seems to be spiralling out of control. It's almost worse when I haven't got something to focus on and as soon as I relax I start thinking, mind goes in to overdrive and I start to get anxious. It's started to affect sleep lately which has never happened before. To top that I'm a bit OCD constantly checking for fear of doing or something going wrong so my mind is in overdrive constantly. Something small can trigger it and then before I know it and then I can feel myself building up to the point where it boils over and a panic attack comes on which is quite frightening, heart quickens just an overwhelming feeling of fear. With breathing deeply I can slow heart rate and then eventually the feeling of dread eases. I have been to GP before with it and got heart checked which was all fine.
I was prescribed medication before and I think I'm going to have to go back to GP but has anyone on here who suffers with this any advice on how to deal with the it, coping tips. I'm at the end of my tether.

I've heard people recommend square breathing to help "control" the panic https://www.verywellmind.com/the-benefits-and-steps-of-box-breathing-4159900 . This doesn't say it but the woman who described using it to me, visualised breathing along the sides of a square as well so in on one side out on the next etc.

The other technique people I know use is "the happy place" type visualisation. A few are described here https://mindfulminutes.com/ease-anxiety-with-visualization-techniques/.

These things aren't instant and certainly the visualisations might need using quite frequently because the negative thoughts will keep returning. But the more you use them the longer they work for - certainly to the point where you can get some high quality sleep.

I know earlier this year I posted about mindfulness colouring which is really popular as a calming exercise. https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...-including-helpline-details.6618/post-7183330

You do need to speak to your GP and think about contacting one of the agri specific help groups to help support you.
 
Hi all wishing everyone a happy new year, I'm hoping someone may be able to help. I'm after some advice on anxiety, panic attacks. I have suffered in relative silence with this for some time now with only my wife knowing and I posted on here some time ago. I thought I had got on top of it but lately it just seems to be spiralling out of control. It's almost worse when I haven't got something to focus on and as soon as I relax I start thinking, mind goes in to overdrive and I start to get anxious. It's started to affect sleep lately which has never happened before. To top that I'm a bit OCD constantly checking for fear of doing or something going wrong so my mind is in overdrive constantly. Something small can trigger it and then before I know it and then I can feel myself building up to the point where it boils over and a panic attack comes on which is quite frightening, heart quickens just an overwhelming feeling of fear. With breathing deeply I can slow heart rate and then eventually the feeling of dread eases. I have been to GP before with it and got heart checked which was all fine.
I was prescribed medication before and I think I'm going to have to go back to GP but has anyone on here who suffers with this any advice on how to deal with the it, coping tips. I'm at the end of my tether.
Well done for communicating your feelings with your wife. That takes a lot of guts, and it will be really helpful to have her support. As others have said, medication can be very effective. I also got some psychotherapy, and was very fortunate that my employer helped me to access this privately. It was a huge help, and made me see a lot of stuff from my upbringing in a different light. Knowing how effective therapy was for me, I had no hesitation in paying for my wife to see the same practitioner when she got ill.

I have only just started reading this thread, but it looks like there are lots of people who can offer support and a listening ear, and I would add myself to that number. A huge number of people have similar experiences at some point, and you will get through it. Certain points/ triggers in our lives can bring on these symptoms. Wishing you all the best
 
Well done for communicating your feelings with your wife. That takes a lot of guts, and it will be really helpful to have her support. As others have said, medication can be very effective. I also got some psychotherapy, and was very fortunate that my employer helped me to access this privately. It was a huge help, and made me see a lot of stuff from my upbringing in a different light. Knowing how effective therapy was for me, I had no hesitation in paying for my wife to see the same practitioner when she got ill.

I have only just started reading this thread, but it looks like there are lots of people who can offer support and a listening ear, and I would add myself to that number. A huge number of people have similar experiences at some point, and you will get through it. Certain points/ triggers in our lives can bring on these symptoms. Wishing you all the best
I forgot to say that in my experience, good sleep hygiene can do a lot of good in keeping the demons at bay. When I look back, it is usually when I have been overdoing things ( trying to get by on 4-5 hours kip a night) that things get on top of me. I don’t do it often enough, but an early night, away from the phone, can work wonders. Fresh bedding and a nice hot shower/ bath, even better!
 

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