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spin cycle

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Have made the decision to go to the doctors myself about how I feel, not sure what will happen but hopefully I will at least find a way to get some sleep after it.

Had the kids last night for the first time since the new house. Was fine until I went to bed and started to fall asleep only for one to wake for the toilet then I didnt sleep all night. This morning the youngest was asking if they were going back to mums tonight but they are here again and she started crying and shouting that she didnt want to stay here again :cry::cry::cry:

blimey mate thats tough....little one doesn't mean it she's just upset/scared...hang in there i'm sure it'll get better:)
 
I have discovered that many of the problems described on this thread can be magnified and pushed out of proportion by one's diet and peoples reactions to life events can be over sensitised. A bit like handling a double barrel shotgun with a hair trigger and the safety off!

Anyone fancy trying a moth's gluten free diet and dropping caffein and alcohol for thirty days? Just to see if I'm talking a load of tosh; or not! It must be worth a try.
am caffeine and alcohol free most of the time now.to the point where if I forget to ask for decaf and end up with a proper cup of coffee I get a tremendous headache within the hour. Alcohol the effects are more subtle mainly lethargy the following day (2 pints max) the biggest issue with alcohol is the peer pressure when you are out socially and not drinking,it gets a bit dull after a while. As for gulten free hmmm maybe a step too far for me as I love my carbs! though I am cutting down on my sugar intake so am eating less bread generally.

Overall the effect so far has been a more positive attitude to life and exercise in particular (y). Have to add though I do attribute a lot of my improve state of mind to the Yoga I do and the breathing techniques I am learning it appears to keep me on more of a level without the lows.
I have to work hard at being an optimist but just making small positive changes in my day to day life has allowed me to pat myself on the back occasionally.

My yoga teacher observed that the bullying I received at school may mean I don't easily give myself credit as it may mean drawing attention to myself which is the last thing a victim of bullying wants. She maybe be right.

onwards up upwards everyone
 
Lazy Farmer,

I applaud your progress and first class example to the rest of us. As for exercise; I would assume that most of you farming folk get enough exercise climbing on and off tractors, chasing after sheep, and heavy lifting etc,etc but gentle yoga or stretching exercises at the end of a hard day's slog would assist in relaxing the body and eliminating some of the toxins that can build in the muscles.
 
Lazy Farmer,

I applaud your progress and first class example to the rest of us. As for exercise; I would assume that most of you farming folk get enough exercise climbing on and off tractors, chasing after sheep, and heavy lifting etc,etc but gentle yoga or stretching exercises at the end of a hard day's slog would assist in relaxing the body and eliminating some of the toxins that can build in the muscles.
just had a look at the app thingy on my phone.have walked an avg of 8 miles the last 3 days and we are quiet! admittedly in that total there are some lovely wanderings about with the dog:D
 

Wiking

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Location
Sweden
Lazy Farmer,

I applaud your progress and first class example to the rest of us. As for exercise; I would assume that most of you farming folk get enough exercise climbing on and off tractors, chasing after sheep, and heavy lifting etc,etc but gentle yoga or stretching exercises at the end of a hard day's slog would assist in relaxing the body and eliminating some of the toxins that can build in the muscles.

That's probably true, a lot of farmers do get out and about. But often times it's spending hours on end sitting in the same position in your tractor or lifting heavy things in an awkward maner etc, especially whilst handling livestock.
To keep ahead of any problems with my back or in general I've been working out at a gym for the better part of ten years along with biking and running, not only has it helped me keep on top my issues with depressions but it shaped my body the way I wanted it which was a huge boost to my confidence. I'd recommend everyone to spend a few hours each week on exercise, it does good for the mind too, at least in my case.

May I ask what type of work you do/did Christoph? :)
Edit: Sorry for my poor spelling, I don't type enough in english to stay on top of it...
 
Wiking

Spent most of my working life in the heavy chemicals industry as a process operator and did several stints overseas commisioning chemical plants. After returning to the UK in 1985 I moved into fine chemicals and perfumed oils but along with fifty others I was made redundant and eventually joined an aviation security team just after 9/11.

Athough my income was reduced by half and just about every loose canon in the world wanted to smuggle stuff past us, blow us up, and commit all maner of things without our knowing; I enjoyed my last seven and a half years of enployment more than anything.

Over forty years ago I suffered a major psychologica breakdown and was prescribed high doses of "Valium" as part of my treatment. Unfortunately they withdrew my medication enblock whilst they ran some special test on my brain functions but in those days they didn't know about the major Valium withdrawal problems and I went into an unimaginable downer like unto the greatest nightmare one could think of. At the time I thought that I would become unemployable and never work again....that was if I ever survived atall.

After retiring seven years ago I took up beach metal detecting to fill in my spare time but after seven and a half years working in security I kept one eye and one ear cocked for security problems that were occuring all around us each day. So, when the story of hundreds of pigs being found dead on an English farm landed in my in box my curiosity was pricked and I followed the trail to the Farming Forum where I stumbled upon this thread.

After reading about the large percentage of country folk that commit suicide, I set to wondering that if I shared what I knew of the anxiety/depression experience and it's surviveabilty would it be of any help to those good farming folk that have fallen into dark places.

It hasn't been easy and at times it has been painful to look back and bring out memories, in the hope of ecouraging others.

Mind you, It looks to me like this thread is really going places and is becomming a beacon in what is perhaps one of the darkest of times for some.

With typing and spelling like mine, I would be the last person to comment on others.

I do wonder if it is now time for me to bale out and get back to my beach work.

Stay safe, stay well, and I hope this diatribe hasn't irritated or bored you. :)





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DRC

Member
@Christoph1945 you make a very valued contribution to a sensitive topic. It's hard to convey that thing that is most needed via a screen and that is being there and listening without judgment. We all offer and look for different things in life at different times and you offer something very special here.
I've messaged Christoph, saying much the same. His glue which holds this thread together, is without doubt the most important contribution on the forum.
 
I can't help thinking that I was somehow called to be here at one specific moment in time and that perhaps my input, for the moment, is now complete and the thread is growing in strength and direction as each day passes.

It has been a privilege and an honour, although somewhat painful at times, to be allowed to share with you good farming folk and see more people beginning to open up and share their troubled struggles with the black dog of anxiety/depression.

I'm not deserting but stepping back just a little way and will still call in from time to time. The heroes in here are those that have started to win the battle against the dark and are starting to open up those areas of their lives that can now start to be helped by the experience. They don't know it yet but their very willingness to share is encouraging a great many others.

Chris :)
 

Wiking

Member
Location
Sweden
Thanks for sharing your story @Christoph1945.
Like @Alicecow says, there's loads of interesting threads all over the forum, both AG and non AG-related, so don't go anywhere!

You're a very good listener, and I think that's a quite rare skill these days. I thank you for your time and input :)
 

Wiking

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Location
Sweden
Hey,
Yeah our W is like an english V - however Viking is the correct spelling in Swedish aswell. I'm not sure why I put a W in my name to be honest, but it can't be undone now :p
 

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