Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

[Steevo]

Most health food shops should stock it, but try a search on the old pooter. Make sure it is the K2-MK7 type. WARNING - do not take if you are on blood thinners.

Thanks. I did a quick Google yesterday and didn't turn up anything. Just tried it again and found some sensibly priced ones, 120 tablets of the 100ug version, £9.99 including delivery. MUCH cheaper than Holland & Barrett.

https://www.tesco.com/direct/oxford...s-for-blood-health/719-0221.prd?source=others

Every little helps.....!

 

[llamedos]

YANA: Help for those in farming
who may be affected by stress and depression.
Farming is usually a good way of life but it is a demanding and stressful occupation. So it’s not surprising that many people involved with agriculture can feel isolated, depressed or unable to cope as well as normal.

1 in 5 people in the UK will experience a problem with depression so it is important to know that you, or the person you are concerned about, are not alone.

Those who work in agriculture are often reluctant to seek support for depression, stress or anxiety. However, talking about your problems and seeking appropriate help can make it easier to cope and improve your quality of life.
Remember that depression is an illness not a weakness.

If you are involved with agriculture or farming in any way, and are feeling low or if you are worried about a member of your family, a colleague or a friend, YANA can help. Remember, you don’t have to struggle by yourself - good help is available.

If you are very seriously worried about the mental state of someone go to our Concerned about someone page NOW. Don’t hesitate to take action.

YANA can offer specific help for those involved in any way with farming or agriculture in Norfolk and Suffolk - but wherever you live and farm you might find these pages useful.

YANA: Confidential support to those in the farming community:
You can talk to someone at YANA Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm.
An answer service is available out of hours
or, if you prefer, email [email protected] - we are here to help.

Depression is an illness – NOT a weakness

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[Christoph1945]

Sounds good to me.

I also heard this week that those who correlate the suicide figures for trades and professions stated that they are now seeing a decline in the number of suicides within the agricultural industry.

Not sure of the reasons behind the figures but can't help wondering if they can be put down to people becoming more aware of the help and support systems that are now available for those in need, a reduction of the hard core business pressures from supermarkets etc; or perhaps even changes in the seasonal conditions.

All good news for those struggling with stress/depression and those family and friends that are working to try to help and support them.

Chris

 

[JWL]

I know it sounds a bit insensitive but it may be down to the lower numbers of folk in the agricultural industry

 

[betweenthelines]

I managed to get back to work today with no problems.

I'm glad to say my employer is now running courses on dealing with mental health issues.

 

[glasshouse]

Sounds good to me.

I also heard this week that those who correlate the suicide figures for trades and professions stated that they are now seeing a decline in the number of suicides within the agricultural industry.

Not sure of the reasons behind the figures but can't help wondering if they can be put down to people becoming more aware of the help and support systems that are now available for those in need, a reduction of the hard core business pressures from supermarkets etc; or perhaps even changes in the seasonal conditions.

All good news for those struggling with stress/depression and those family and friends that are working to try to help and support them.

Chris

There are a lot less farmers now, so numbers have to fall.

 

[Alicecow]

I managed to get back to work today with no problems.

I'm glad to say my employer is now running courses on dealing with mental health issues.

That's great - on both points

 

[Christoph1945]

I managed to get back to work today with no problems.

I'm glad to say my employer is now running courses on dealing with mental health issues.

Good news all round.

 

[The Craven Heifer]

Is there enough done to give support to people in that state of mind?

Even to council people after a person does commit suicide?

I know some people never ask for help and it's kinda hard to find out if someone thinks like that.

But with farming it is very stressful and well it's a bigger strain on people.

I agree, even council estate riffraff need a little support in these matters (counsel)

 

[The Craven Heifer]

I'm in the same boat, my girlfriend has finally decided to go and see a doctor after months of mood swings and deep depression amongst those swings, possibly escalated from working stupid hours, starting in the dark, finishing in the dark ,inside all the time, annoyingly she wants to sort herself out on her own and thus we're on a partial break and i'm caught now between a rock and a hard place, very frustrating, upsetting there's not much i can do without pushing her away even more.

This sounds harsh I'm aware, but ultimately the person in question has to sort themselves out, they'll find a way out of the hole, or they won't. But nothing a loving partner can do or say will 'make it all ok'. Having suffered from horrendous depression for years, I know for a fact that subjecting a partner to the problem just compounds the problem. I wouldn't inflict my depressive phases on anyone. I just work through it. A depressive is a depressive, regardless of wealth, position, celebrity.

 

[The Craven Heifer]

This could be a mirror image of my relationship
Though Rachel has always been prone to anxiety from before I met her she started to go down hill in Sept and got steadily worse
Finally saw consultant in January after a long wait who diagnosed anxiety disorder and seasonal disorder
At the same time a blood test result came back after 3 months! showing Vit D and iron low
She admitted that every winter she has felt the same
She has been started on medication with some improvement but the side effects are a problem
I have been pushed away and I know it's giving me a way out and sometimes I've thought sod it but I'm hanging in there. There's good days and bad days
If you want her just keep letting her know that you're there for her. It will be a long journey but she will improve eventually

Jeez how do you think they got on with the black dog 500 years ago. If you didn't get up, get out and get peasanting, you'd die of hunger. I don't expect they had time to be 'depressed'. I've suffered from it all my life, it's a damn curse. Best cure for me? Keep really busy, a bit of stress is good. Too much not good. But time on your hands? BAD! Who was it said "the cure for the camelious hump, the hump that is black and blue? Dig, dig till you gently perspire" I'm never depressed after I've hand barrowed out the sheep shed.

 

[ImLost]

Jeez how do you think they got on with the black dog 500 years ago. If you didn't get up, get out and get peasanting, you'd die of hunger. I don't expect they had time to be 'depressed'. I've suffered from it all my life, it's a damn curse. Best cure for me? Keep really busy, a bit of stress is good. Too much not good. But time on your hands? BAD! Who was it said "the cure for the camelious hump, the hump that is black and blue? Dig, dig till you gently perspire" I'm never depressed after I've hand barrowed out the sheep shed.

I do have to agree with this, Monday was a rubbish day for me, and yesterday was looking to be the same, so I wrote out the longest list of jobs i could and just started cracking on. I started by making a nest box for the flock of hens ive got that have just started laying all over the place. it took me about 15 or 20 mins of flat out work and was a complete bodge, but by the time i had fitted it and been attacked by about 100 hens who were also trying to lay in the box while i was putting it up, I felt so much better, why? because i didnt have time to stop and think about myself, i was working on something i love, and it was rewarding to see it working. I was also still laughing after i thought a hen was going to cr*p all over me, but the poo turned out to be an egg its often the small things that make you smile the most!!

 

[Gong Farmer]

A bit brutal, but true. If you're not doing, you're thinking, and it's the thinking that causes all these problems.

 

[Alicecow]

I do have to agree with this, Monday was a rubbish day for me, and yesterday was looking to be the same, so I wrote out the longest list of jobs i could and just started cracking on. I started by making a nest box for the flock of hens ive got that have just started laying all over the place. it took me about 15 or 20 mins of flat out work and was a complete bodge, but by the time i had fitted it and been attacked by about 100 hens who were also trying to lay in the box while i was putting it up, I felt so much better, why? because i didnt have time to stop and think about myself, i was working on something i love, and it was rewarding to see it working. I was also still laughing after i thought a hen was going to cr*p all over me, but the poo turned out to be an egg its often the small things that make you smile the most!!

Love the bit about the nest box

Whilst I may agree about keeping busy, sometimes people are just too low in themselves to be able to get started then just end up staring into a dark spirally place.

 

[Christoph1945]

I do have to agree with this, Monday was a rubbish day for me, and yesterday was looking to be the same, so I wrote out the longest list of jobs i could and just started cracking on. I started by making a nest box for the flock of hens ive got that have just started laying all over the place. it took me about 15 or 20 mins of flat out work and was a complete bodge, but by the time i had fitted it and been attacked by about 100 hens who were also trying to lay in the box while i was putting it up, I felt so much better, why? because i didnt have time to stop and think about myself, i was working on something i love, and it was rewarding to see it working. I was also still laughing after i thought a hen was going to cr*p all over me, but the poo turned out to be an egg its often the small things that make you smile the most!!

Can we see a picture of the new hen house?

 

[ImLost]

Can we see a picture of the new hen house?

urrrm




i'll go and take some pictures now!

 

[ImLost]

never posted pics on here...... how do i do it?!

 

[Gong Farmer]

If you can get the pic on your computer or whatever device, just click 'Upload a file' under the reply box and navigate through your files till you find it.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Go to "upload a file" then select the pic off your computer

Or try copy & pasting a photo from your phone's photo album.

 

[spin cycle]

Jeez how do you think they got on with the black dog 500 years ago. If you didn't get up, get out and get peasanting, you'd die of hunger. I don't expect they had time to be 'depressed'. I've suffered from it all my life, it's a damn curse. Best cure for me? Keep really busy, a bit of stress is good. Too much not good. But time on your hands? BAD! Who was it said "the cure for the camelious hump, the hump that is black and blue? Dig, dig till you gently perspire" I'm never depressed after I've hand barrowed out the sheep shed.

that sort of post suggests depression is 'in the mind' rather than the illness it is....true about activity as it releases endorphins.....but to suggest ppl coped better 500 yrs ago is wrong....for instance 500 yrs ago no antibiotics...no anasthetics to name but two...ppl 'coped' though