Decent Rj45 connectors

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  1. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    Anyone know of any good RJ45 ones? the cat 6 cable we have fitted in a house has solid wires with quite a large plastic surround which makes it really difficult to push into the RS and other standard RJ45 connectors. I have a lot to do as we are using this for internet, TV, security cameras etc.

    Maplins did some that you could preload the cables into a little plastic holder that set the cables in the correct layout then push the whole asssembly into the RJ45 and crimp but obviously they are gone. I have tried a whole load of different type and cannot find any easy ones.
     
  2. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud
    I used these from Harting - not the cheapest, but they are excellent. Solid cable is a real pita with those little plastic shitty RJ45's.




    https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rj45-connectors/7148544/

    I did not use RS, I shipped ine in from the US
     
  3. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    Thanks they look a bit pricey with the number i have to do but will have a search in the US websites for them
     
  4. upnortheast

    upnortheast Member

    Location:
    Northumberland
    I like to terminate the Cat6 cable in a wall socket then just use short patch leads from the wall socket to the `puter or whatever
     

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  5. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

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  6. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    It will go into a patch board in the end but the house is an on going thing so we need to rig it up to allow stuff to work until we get it into a 48way patch board
     
  7. So do you mean sockets (wall outlets), the plugs or both?

    Sockets are designed to be field terminated generally without any sort of crimping tool directly onto solid core category rated 24awg cable.

    Plugs typically are designed to be terminated using a crimp tool onto stranded cable / flexible fly leads. You can crimp them onto solid core cable, but it’s not ideal practice and over time the cores have a tendency to break as solid core category cabling is designed to be rolled out from its box and cable tied into fixed position, once.
     
  8. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    Ok you won’t get cat6 into rj45 plug designed for cat5


    The cat6 plugs are 2 part...
    They are fiddly but doable best are the platinum tools rj45s the video is the cat5 plug but the cat6 is similar


     
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  9. I don’t know who told you that but it’s completely untrue.
     
  10. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    If your RJ45 don’t look like these https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/np8-001cat6/rj45-plug-cat6-pack-10/dp/CN11345?mckv=sSuBlPTWZ_dm|pcrid|224645161149|kword||match||plid||slid||product|CN11345|pgrid|45968746254|ptaid|pla-524842406323|&CMP=KNC-GUK-CPC-SHOPPING&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjLjIxaHI3gIVyITVCh15IQkGEAQYBSABEgIp6PD_BwE

    Your on a hiding to no where oh and get a decent tester.....

    While not proper to terminate like this it’s very very common on AV, security and other none data applications
     
  11. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    Really? Ok prove me wrong.....
     
  12. I don’t need to prove anything. Your wrong pal.
     
  13. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    So you say RJ45 plugs for cat5 and cat6 are the same?
     
  14. An RJ45 plug or socket is mechanically identical and will interchange whether it was designed to Category 3 or through to Category 6 performance limits. Shielded or unshielded twisted pair makes no difference either. Some manufacturers prefer to use a multi-piece separation element, but they’re not better or worse performance wise than a single piece plug.
     
  15. HDAV

    HDAV Member



    Cat6 RJ45 plugs stack the strands (solid or stranded) into 2 rows of 4 conductors as the cable is thicker, cat5 are in one flat row of 8, the exposed contact end is the same it was to be but the inside is different

    Just like the IDC are different as the wire gauge is different.
     
  16. I havent bothered watching the video, but there is no universal thing that says Cat 6 is stacked and Cat 5 and below is flat. One manufacturer may decide to do that but it’s by no means a discernible universal difference between them.
     
  17. Daniel Larn

    Daniel Larn Member

    The Harting connectors for RJ45 are the mutt's nuts, but really they are really overkill unless you are making connections to junction boxes outside.

    Any CAT cable will fit any RJ45 plug, they are indeed universal, but it is easier to match CAT6 to CAT6 etc.

    I always recommend the terminals with the completly open ends, strip back as much shielding or insulation as is required and pass them all the way through. Then trim it all down with some decent side cutters and crimp it.
     
  18. If you’re going to the expense of installing proper Cat 6, then yes definitely match Cat 6 cable, sockets and patch leads. To meet the performance standards of a Categiry 6 ‘channel’ (90 metres of fixed cabling + 10 m of flyleads total) then only factory made patch leads will meet the tighter spec. of Cat 6.

    Back in the days when Cat 5 and Cat5e ruled the roost, you were “allowed” to field terminate fly/patch leads by certain manufacturers that provided a warranted/certified their products in a commercial install. Most of these warranties were 15 or 20 years from the likes of AT&T/Lucent/Avaya, Krone, Molex, ITT, or Mayflex etc. This would be unheard of in a domestic or small commercial install but very common in large office installations, comprising tens of thousands of outlets. All cabling, outlets and leads etc had to come from the same manufacturer to achieve warranty certification. All outlets would need to be performance tested using a proper calibrated cable tester, not just continuity and making sure pairs weren’t transposed or split, but a full attenuation, near end and far end cross talk test.

    The physical difference in a typical CaT 6 (solid core) cable to Cat 5 is very obvious. Firstly in a Cat 6 cable the pair twists are much tighter, secondly there is usually a plastic cross/spacer/filler separating the pairs within the sheath. Finally the core size/gauge of the cable is slightly larger in Cat 6 than Cat 5. This makes the cable stiffer to handle and less wieldy than Cat 5.

    To be fair Cat5e (enhanced Cat 5) will still handle the bulk of duties, up to 1000BaseT Ethernet. However from a future proofing perspective the smaller premium now to install Cat 6 is probably justified. Just keep it all Cat 6 rated components.
     
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  19. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    Yes we have put cat6 into every room. We will put all the TV over it, cameras etc. Every room has at least one cat6 in it back to a central room.

    I want some decent plugs so we can put stuff together as is and it will go into a patch board as the house progresses.

    I have found some too part cat6 plugs so will try them and see how they go.
     
  20. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    The cat6 cable we have used will not physically push into some of the plastic and plastic/metal cat6 rj45 plugs. I have tried a bunch and a load have gone in the bin
     

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