Deer Stalking

craig

New Member
Location
northumberland
I've been trying in vain for a long while to acquire some stalking ground, I can't compete with the blokes that will pay big money and the people who are working on handshakes and gentleman's agreements are obviously not interested as they're happy with the arrangement they have, which is fair enough.
Be careful if you do decide to lease the rights, one thing I hear over and over is people who stitch up as many acres as they can (or can afford) and then don't shoot it, or save it all for clients who want a trophy and do nothing for the numbers or proper management.
A bloke I know used to be an agent in the Cotswolds. The estate had enormous numbers of fallow but the stalking was let to a very highly paying syndicate. Of course, they weren't interested in getting out in the cold, dark winter months and hitting the does hard, and because they were paying handsomely for the right to stalk there, they were also paying for the right NOT to bother when it didn't suit them.
 

Lincoln75

Member
Land owners could / should be a little more involved , get a survey done and decide on culling numbers and the sexes , draw up a contract and state no paying guests , otherwise hinds/does will get left and all the stags shot out.
 

Lincoln75

Member
if farmers/landowners want the money then the stalker needs to bring it in.
Every case is different but for the land owner it should be about having a well managed healthy herd and not too many where tree and crop damage becomes an issue not making a quick buck (pun intended) , 50% of the meat money should be enough in many cases , there are plenty who will do it for that on a twelve month rolling contract.
 

Vizslaman

Member
Location
Hampshire
How things have changed.
30 years ago I managed the deer on a large estate. No money changed hands but a 50/50 split on the carcasses with the occasional carcass being butchered and returned to the owner ready for the deep freeze or oven.
A cull plan was agreed and records kept.
Now the stalking is let by sealed bids and there are lots of does and few "Good Bucks" and by that I mean nice heads.
 

craig

New Member
Location
northumberland
We can't give ours away ,currently 130ish reds in and around 15 roe any takers. ....
Hi sidjon.
Do you
I've been trying in vain for a long while to acquire some stalking ground, I can't compete with the blokes that will pay big money and the people who are working on handshakes and gentleman's agreements are obviously not interested as they're happy with the arrangement they have, which is fair enough.
Be careful if you do decide to lease the rights, one thing I hear over and over is people who stitch up as many acres as they can (or can afford) and then don't shoot it, or save it all for clients who want a trophy and do nothing for the numbers or proper management.
A bloke I know used to be an agent in the Cotswolds. The estate had enormous numbers of fallow but the stalking was let to a very highly paying syndicate. Of course, they weren't interested in getting out in the cold, dark winter months and hitting the does hard, and because they were paying handsomely for the right to stalk there, they were also paying for the right NOT to bother when it didn't suit them.
hi Simon. I’m based in Northumberland. I will be rendering for three blocks soon. Roe only. If you are interested I will beat you in mind for syndicate.
 
Every case is different but for the land owner it should be about having a well managed healthy herd

Every landowner is different and there will be varying policies, often with no deer policy in place at all.

Conversely, I know several big landowners round here with a serious zero tolerance policy for roe & monkey-jacks.
 

sidjon

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Location
EXMOOR
Hi sidjon.
I sent that post incomplete. I Was wondering if you still wanted the reds and roe taken off or if you have it sorted given your post was two years ago.

Have got someone who is removing red hinds only which is what have struggled too do for a few years, so am fully sorted (y)
 
Cripes 1500 acres in Dorset would be worth a fortune but you have to balance it: income vs someone actually doing the job you need done.

Don't be put off having a pair of guys do it, that is what a friend of mine does. They pay a sum each. Having additional vehicles, eyes and a gun on the place can be handy for other reasons besides deer.

As others have mentioned insist on photocopies of their FAC, insurance details, BASC membership and have them text you when they are about and where. Agree that only their (known) vehicle will be used, not whosoevers car they elect to bring this time.

Not all the shooters are interested in big munter trophies, there are people out there who want to play an active part in deer conservation and have a role in your patch, so to speak.
 

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