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midlandslad

Member
Location
Midlands
Had a quote from hsbc and this business could borrow £1.3 million from 1 to 25 years. Annual interest repayment would be £1,375 per month.
We are thinking of upgrading infrastructure so it would be used for a variety of things such as buildings etc but we do not need to list what it’s used for against the loan. The loan would be secured against existing assets. Is that a good rate? As we’ve only made one enquiry so far.

This looks too good to be true. What is the rate they have quoted you in % terms?
 

midlandslad

Member
Location
Midlands
We will see a temporary jump in inflation but if this is sustained the base rate will raise and borrowing will become more expensive. The B of E have a clear objective to keep inflation at 2% and will use the base rate to control this.
 

redsloe

Member
Location
Cornwall
so a small blip !

around here they never actually fell at all
Hmm, I think you need to go back in time a tiny bit more.
I bought a house cheaper in 2016 7 doors down from an identical one I bought in 2006. In other words I had 10 years of deflation but fortunately had time to wait for it to recover.

It could happen again, buy a house now and prices crash. I put in an offer for one a month ago but the vendor wanted 10% more than any other house sold on that estate.

It's all very well quoting stats, but they aren't always right!
 

redsloe

Member
Location
Cornwall
Had a quote from hsbc and this business could borrow £1.3 million from 1 to 25 years. Annual interest repayment would be £1,375 per month.
We are thinking of upgrading infrastructure so it would be used for a variety of things such as buildings etc but we do not need to list what it’s used for against the loan. The loan would be secured against existing assets. Is that a good rate? As we’ve only made one enquiry so far.
I wouldn't do it if your not sure at less than 1.3%........
 

mwj

Member
Location
Illinois USA
The 1980's in this country rocked the farmers. Land prices that were reduced greatly, nearly halved there net worth. The bankers called loans because there was not enough assets to cover the loan amounts. It was a bloodbath in the farming community.
 

tullah

Member
Location
Linconshire
Had a quote from hsbc and this business could borrow £1.3 million from 1 to 25 years. Annual interest repayment would be £1,375 per month.
We are thinking of upgrading infrastructure so it would be used for a variety of things such as buildings etc but we do not need to list what it’s used for against the loan. The loan would be secured against existing assets. Is that a good rate? As we’ve only made one enquiry so far.
That's a pretty good, 1.27% annual interest charge.
May I ask how much setting up charge if any?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Hmm, I think you need to go back in time a tiny bit more.
I bought a house cheaper in 2016 7 doors down from an identical one I bought in 2006. In other words I had 10 years of deflation but fortunately had time to wait for it to recover.

It could happen again, buy a house now and prices crash. I put in an offer for one a month ago but the vendor wanted 10% more than any other house sold on that estate.

It's all very well quoting stats, but they aren't always right!

they were not printing money to fix problems in 2006

im 2008 they learnt this new trick


that said any house bought in 2006 around here is worth a LOT more today than it was in 2006 or 2016
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Had a quote from hsbc and this business could borrow £1.3 million from 1 to 25 years. Annual interest repayment would be £1,375 per month.
We are thinking of upgrading infrastructure so it would be used for a variety of things such as buildings etc but we do not need to list what it’s used for against the loan. The loan would be secured against existing assets. Is that a good rate? As we’ve only made one enquiry so far.

no brainier if you can service comfortably

its sub 2% - if you can’t make thst kind of return from an asset I would give up !
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
no brainier if you can service comfortably

its sub 2% - if you can’t make thst kind of return from an asset I would give up !
It's a good rate, but do remember depreciation on buildings, and repair budget.
Buying them is only step one.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
no brainier if you can service comfortably

its sub 2% - if you can’t make thst kind of return from an asset I would give up !

Plenty of BTL houses would probably be on slim margins now, but as you say the capital appreciation vs. inflation would cover the cost of capital without too much issue.
 

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