Deutz fahr 6165 no ignition

[Harvester]

So I've got 12.6 on batt and starter little relay in fuse box click when I turn key but no ignition at all

 

[Wisconsonian]

It helps to have a helper to turn the key while another person checks the voltage. Check at the starter solenoid, if the little signal wire gets no voltage when the key is turned, then you check the tractor wiring. Go back to the battery, make sure your 12.6 holds and doesn't drop way off, then go to the ignition switch and see if the 12.6 holds when the key is turned to start. Divide the problem and narrow in on it.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

There’s a main fuse somewhere most probably, I will guess not very far from the battery terminal. Follow the second thickest wire from the terminal

 

[Harvester]

It helps to have a helper to turn the key while another person checks the voltage. Check at the starter solenoid, if the little signal wire gets no voltage when the key is turned, then you check the tractor wiring. Go back to the battery, make sure your 12.6 holds and doesn't drop way off, then go to the ignition switch and see if the 12.6 holds when the key is turned to start. Divide the problem and narrow in on it.

The problem is that I havnt got any ignition lights or anyrhing

 

[startinghandle]

Have you checked battery terminal and earth connection??

 

[Harvester]

Have you checked battery terminal and earth connection??

It all seems clean

 

[quavers]

take the terminal off clean with wire brush and replace , the clamp on my 150 does this , its the style off clamp which does not grip the best ,

 

[Wisconsonian]

The problem is that I havnt got any ignition lights or anyrhing

You can hope somebody comes along that knows just what is most likely to fail on this, or you can track it down with a volt meter. Your choice. This is much newer than I was expecting, so I'm no help with suggesting where to look. You could start at the battery, then move one test lead at a time. 12V at battery posts with the key turned to start? then move to bat positive post to the engine block, still 12V? then the engine block to the starter solenoid, still 12V? Then follow the bigger wires from the pos on the solenoid like Mur Huwcun said, 12V there?

Most valuable will be the first couple tests, if you don't find a loss of voltage in those, then you'll get into a complicated wiring harness that won't be so easy. Anything unusual happen recently to the tractor? Checked all the fuses?

 

[manhill]

Not familiar with Deutz but it sounds like an intermediate relay in the fuse box operates the solenoid on the starter.
First thing I'd do is put 12v on the solenoid (gear in neutral of course). 2 minute call to the dealer's mechanic to confirm this is ok might be helpful.

 

[Timbo]

The problem is that I havnt got any ignition lights or anyrhing

You will have a high rated maxi fuse that supplies the cab and/ or a large relay likely in the engine bay fuse box that will be at fault.

 

[manhill]

Bet a lot of posts about starting problems will be coming as the weather gets colder now. The battery loses capacity, the oils get thicker, terminals that need cleaning that just managed to pass enough current in summer will show up.
Alternators and starters that rely on fixing bolts for earths can cause problems.
Reminds me, better tighten those starter motor nuts that have been working loose!

 

[manhill]

Bet a lot of posts about starting problems will be coming as the weather gets colder now. The battery loses capacity, the oils get thicker, terminals that need cleaning that just managed to pass enough current in summer will show up.
Alternators and starters that rely on fixing bolts for earths can cause problems.
Reminds me, better tighten those starter motor nuts that have been working loose!

forgot to mention the problems poor jumper lead clamps can cause, waggle, waggle, wagle, been there!

 

[Harvester]

You will have a high rated maxi fuse that supplies the cab and/ or a large relay likely in the engine bay fuse box that will be at fault.

Thank you the 200 amp fuse seems OK well 12.6v either side of it.. I will look for fuses in engine bay

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Thank you the 200 amp fuse seems OK well 12.6v either side of it.. I will look for fuses in engine bay

You’re looking for a 40 or 60 amp one at a guess that’s the main feed protection from battery to fuse box. 99% sure that the feed will be from battery terminal so follow the second biggest cable from positive terminal to a box or lump etc