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So it only took 31 years for the EU to change us from acres to hectares?

These Brexit negotiations are going to be a walk in the park, especially with Trump on our side...
 
My point was that the 31 year timeframe illustrates the speed at which the EU is able to drive policy changes and decision making.

A negotiation is a two-way process, I just don't hold out much hope of the UK as a whole getting anything near what could be considered to be a good deal in the ten years to come.

I'll leave it there though.
 
as you say, negotiation is a two way street and as we import more from the EU than they do from us in theory we have the upper hand. However it does depend on how good a job our politicians and civil servants do, they could completely blow it and give away that advantage or there is the distinct possibility that although brexit may well be good for the country overall, some sectors could be disadvantaged by it, agriculture being one. It will all depend on the negotiations and the deals done, only time will tell.
 

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as you say, negotiation is a two way street and as we import more from the EU than they do from us in theory we have the upper hand. However it does depend on how good a job our politicians and civil servants do, they could completely blow it and give away that advantage or there is the distinct possibility that although brexit may well be good for the country overall, some sectors could be disadvantaged by it, agriculture being one. It will all depend on the negotiations and the deals done, only time will tell.
As you say they need us more than we need them, I just hope those doing the negotiating do a good job
 
As you say they need us more than we need them, I just hope those doing the negotiating do a good job
Absolutely, but the Europeans are going to do there best to look after their interests so I hope our politicians/civil servants are up to the job and possibly more worrying that there aren't remainers on the team who's heart isn't in the job or those who would like to see brexit fail.
 

Danllan

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One of the most important skills any negotiator can have is to judge, correctly, when to walk away from a negotiation.

If the other party either does not enter negotiations with good will or will not accept your red line(s), there is no point in further 'negotiations'. The EU is used to getting its own way, usually by bullying or sulking, and when that hasn't worked by simple imposition. The Brexit vote is the first time, I'll repeat that, the first time it has had something not go its way that it can't overturn. Past referenda regarding and affecting the EU, that have given the 'wrong' answer were re-run; the ERM became the Euro; and all moves from member states to defend their national interests have been brushed aside - usually by an initial compromise and then later by the Commission sending down a 'Directive' or 'Regulation' which couldn't be rejected or even appealed against.

They, the EU and its acolytes, don't like what has happened, they are frightened by it, they want to stop possible 'contagion', and they know they can't stop it so they will do what other in that position who, hitherto, have always had their own way - they will argue like hell and then try to get revenge. Unless, of course, common sense erupts and their economic interests take precedence over their dogma.
 

Pasty

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Devon
Our Govt. seems to be adopting exactly the right tone. Let's do a deal or we become a tax haven. That will scare the crap out of Germany as it's the last thing they need. As much as some would like it not to be, the boot is firmly on our foot with now the US and other countries saying 'let's do some quick trade deals and get going'.

I imagine for all the posturing, there are many in the higher echelons of the EU absolutely crapping themselves. They know they HAVE to give us a good deal and break all the rules but how to stop contagion? What a complex web they have spun. Oh well.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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