Difficult farming neighbour

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Our farm is at the end of a lowest grade council road which was concreted by the previous owners of our farm,neighbours farm is 200 yards away,off the same lane, we have always had a strained relationship although no major problems.They put in for planning last year for a 120x60 sheep shed which would need major excavation,this shed will be around 150 yards from our yard and the excavation will sit it well down so not really on the skyline.I looked at the plans which looked fine so did not raise any objection,other than asking the neighbour where the spoil was going,"cut and fill" was the reply as if to say they could dispose of it around the site.After a week of digging there is now a heap of spoil 20 feet high 50 yards from our house right in front,which was not in the planning,it has been moved there with dump trailers and looks permanent (not good enough stone for re use),not sure what to do now,Anyone any thoughts very grateful for any advice.
 

Dolomite

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Yorkshire
Have a polite word with the farmer in question. See if it can be rectified amicably or if it is to be moved, if so get it in writing. Failing that ring the planning officer straight away and make a complaint and demand he visits the site. Make your point known and that it's not good for your farm and welfare whilst living there affects value and distressed you etc. They have the power to make them move it and or alter planning half way through. Our local council are terrible for this should you not tow the line with what you have permission for.
 

jellybean

Member
Location
N.Devon
Neighbours! good ones are brilliant. The other sort can be a trial. I honestly don't know the best way of dealing with the difficult ones but sometimes it is just not safe to take their word on something and you need to cover all eventualities. Hope you get it resolved.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Planners won't do anything they haven't got the manpower or money.
Plenty of enforcements round here are just left and even ones with planning aren't checked to make sure all the conditions are met.

Have a word with neighbours. If that doesn't work maybe a solicitors letter would help?
 

Pan mixer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Having a happy word with the neighbour is by far the best, the Council next, failing that there is the Environment Agency who are always interested in heaps of things.

I am sure that you have to have planning for more than 150mm depth of spoil.
 
Firstly, I would ask how the heap is to be 'landscaped' as per your previous conversation.
I don't think you have a right to a view, but you do have a right to light. And 20' high so close to your house would affect that.

If the response to a) is unhelpful then contact planning. Quoting the planning app number.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Our farm is at the end of a lowest grade council road which was concreted by the previous owners of our farm,neighbours farm is 200 yards away,off the same lane, we have always had a strained relationship although no major problems.They put in for planning last year for a 120x60 sheep shed which would need major excavation,this shed will be around 150 yards from our yard and the excavation will sit it well down so not really on the skyline.I looked at the plans which looked fine so did not raise any objection,other than asking the neighbour where the spoil was going,"cut and fill" was the reply as if to say they could dispose of it around the site.After a week of digging there is now a heap of spoil 20 feet high 50 yards from our house right in front,which was not in the planning,it has been moved there with dump trailers and looks permanent (not good enough stone for re use),not sure what to do now,Anyone any thoughts very grateful for any advice.
yes its a difficult position you are in.

ask them /try to find out what was the problem with the original cut and fill plan ..
it was a lot more than they estimated i guess

have you any reasonable or good use for it as a filling or has anyone else locally.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Our farm is at the end of a lowest grade council road which was concreted by the previous owners of our farm,neighbours farm is 200 yards away,off the same lane, we have always had a strained relationship although no major problems.They put in for planning last year for a 120x60 sheep shed which would need major excavation,this shed will be around 150 yards from our yard and the excavation will sit it well down so not really on the skyline.I looked at the plans which looked fine so did not raise any objection,other than asking the neighbour where the spoil was going,"cut and fill" was the reply as if to say they could dispose of it around the site.After a week of digging there is now a heap of spoil 20 feet high 50 yards from our house right in front,which was not in the planning,it has been moved there with dump trailers and looks permanent (not good enough stone for re use),not sure what to do now,Anyone any thoughts very grateful for any advice.
Are they only a week into the work? If so it could be temporary I'd wait a while longer before saying anything could just be heaped up out of the way before being reused,
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Thanks for all the replies,decided to let it be for a bit,on balance it would be more trouble than its worth to force them to move it,but it is a huge pile maybe 5000t by the time they have finished.THe silly thing is I have a big ditch that could be piped easily and would swallow that lot without taking up an acre of their land!This is a photo from our lounge.
 

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Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Thanks for all the replies,decided to let it be for a bit,on balance it would be more trouble than its worth to force them to move it,but it is a huge pile maybe 5000t by the time they have finished.THe silly thing is I have a big ditch that could be piped easily and would swallow that lot without taking up an acre of their land!This is a photo from our lounge.

Whatever the rights or wrongs, call it an agricultural operation, they may be glad of a home for it.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Thanks for all the replies,decided to let it be for a bit,on balance it would be more trouble than its worth to force them to move it,but it is a huge pile maybe 5000t by the time they have finished.THe silly thing is I have a big ditch that could be piped easily and would swallow that lot without taking up an acre of their land!This is a photo from our lounge.

Seems like he's done it on purpose. Sneak out one night and plant a tree on it to decorate it, then say nothing, he'll spend the next 6 months worrying about how you're going to get him back:sneaky:
 

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