Direct sales and FMD.

delilah

Member
Putting this in the dairy section only because it will be seen by several folks doing direct sales.

Heaven forbid we get there, but what are the rules on farm shops/ vending machines etc that share premises with livestock ? Are you allowed to stay open ? If so with what precautions in place ?

( I'm sure that the Farm Retail Association will have guidelines for their members but thought it needs airing on here so folks know where they stand )
 

Tim G

Member
Livestock Farmer
I've no idea what the rules will be but have been thinking this morning what we will do if the worse happens. Whilst I suppose we could stop customers coming here I can't stop the public footpath that runs through the farm, is there a difference?
 
Location
East Mids
Initial tests on the Norfolk shut down have come back negative for FMD but further tests ongoing. Fingers crossed everyone.

Regarding the initial query and subsequent comments, I doubt if the contemporary response to a confirmed FMD outbreak will be anything like 2001 as the fallout for tourism etc was so great. But for those planning farm diversification enterprises, if you have livestock you always need to think about these scenarios and take care with exactly you locate vending machines etc.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
I've no idea what the rules will be but have been thinking this morning what we will do if the worse happens. Whilst I suppose we could stop customers coming here I can't stop the public footpath that runs through the farm, is there a difference?
In 2001 my old man barricaded the farm in with bale trailers, silage bales, piles of muck, a jcb digger, old tractors that were f**ked, piles of scrap anything that he could find, every gap in the hedge was barricaded, every footpath blocked, the farm entrance took about 20 minutes too unblock every other morning for the milk tanker then 20 minutes to block back up again… we didn’t go anywhere for a long time but didn’t get it thankfully
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yes could we keep this one specifically to how we would keep direct sales going, thanks (y) .
If there was an outbreak direct sales would be last thing anybody should want too keep going! Loads of strangers from who knows where coming on farm or you going too them you’d still be risking picking it up how ever you did it and it’s last thing I’d want too risk
 

delilah

Member
If there was an outbreak direct sales would be last thing anybody should want too keep going! Loads of strangers from who knows where coming on farm or you going too them you’d still be risking picking it up how ever you did it and it’s last thing I’d want too risk

Whilst I would disagree violently with you on that one, the question in the OP wasn't 'should we keep direct sales going ?', but rather 'will we be allowed to/ what can we do to ensure that we are allowed to ? '.
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Whilst I would disagree violently with you on that one, the question in the OP wasn't 'should we keep direct sales going ?', but rather 'will we be allowed to/ what can we do to ensure that we are allowed to ? '.
Why would you want to be allowed too? Can’t understand the mentality of it.. I’d want people as far away from my farm as possible not calling Round for a pint of milk or a joint of beef 🤦‍♂️
 

delilah

Member
Why would you want to be allowed too? Can’t understand the mentality of it.. I’d want people as far away from my farm as possible not calling Round for a pint of milk or a joint of beef 🤦‍♂️

Not going there, it will divert the thread. Happy to respond elsewhere.
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
And also the way f&m comes onto farm and finishes them off completely…
If you direct sell milk off farm and stop selling it what do you do with it? What do the people you sold to do for milk. Answer these questions and you might be helping the op. I'm happy for you that your so financially secure you can lock your farm gate and not leave for 6months+ then just open gate and have all your customers waiting. Seems to me more like dammed if you do and dammed if you don't
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
During the last F & M we hardly left the farm for weeks
Would have to think hard about the risks of sending milk vans out every day. With the layout of our site it would be possible to devise something, to minimise risk. :scratchhead:
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
During the last F & M we hardly left the farm for weeks
Would have to think hard about the risks of sending milk vans out every day. With the layout of our site it would be possible to devise something, to minimise risk. :scratchhead:
That's it you can't just stop selling you got to work away to reduce risk. We sold some stock over video through auction they still had to come video stock and farmer still had to come collect them. We took lambs direct to slaughter but everything we did we tried to minimise risk, never going to eradicate it
 

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