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Shutesy

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Arable Farmer
Couple of pics from here this autumn so far. JB Diego into S Bean stubble @165kg/ha
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JB Diego into wheat stubble @ 185kg/ha
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Volume Hybrid W Barley into S Barley stubble @84kg/ha
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My best cover crop this year, Pedder's legume free mix @30kg/ha into wheat stubble direct with Weaving Tine drill. Raked before and raked and rolled after.
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Biggest issue we have had all summer/autumn here is a serious lack of rain, wearing metal disappearing at an alarming rate on any soil engaging machine. Cover crops quite poor because its so dry and i'm fed up of looking at my crap OSR of which at least half will be written off due to lack of moisture/flea beetle and slugs. Everyone else's pics of hedge to hedge fields of foot high OSR is really irritating!! The difference probably being an inch of rain at the right time which we never had. DTS drilled cereals as above all looking quite good though with v little slug issues so far, so win some loose some.
 
Drilled some heritage landrace wheat for a project and had trouble with deciding the seed rate as precious little knowledge about and never been done as no till.
Opted for conservative 150kg/ha with bits from 200 to 120.
So far the higher rates were easier to see in rows but now no difference as the devils are tillering like oats.
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This is 120 kg
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Never seen anything like it as the tillers have tillers in 4 weeks
If this carries on I think the correct seed rate would be nearer 40kg as I am sure the old saying was right. One for the rook one for the crow one to wither and one to grow.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Drilled some heritage landrace wheat for a project and had trouble with deciding the seed rate as precious little knowledge about and never been done as no till.
Opted for conservative 150kg/ha with bits from 200 to 120.
So far the higher rates were easier to see in rows but now no difference as the devils are tillering like oats.
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This is 120 kg
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Never seen anything like it as the tillers have tillers in 4 weeks
If this carries on I think the correct seed rate would be nearer 40kg as I am sure the old saying was right. One for the rook one for the crow one to wither and one to grow.
no wonder the old boys didnt have much problem with BG as if all wheat tillered like that it would have smoothered a lot of it out
 
no wonder the old boys didnt have much problem with BG as if all wheat tillered like that it would have smoothered a lot of it out

This is uncharted water for me and you wonder how much of the old journals you can trust but some field tests came to the conclusion that the ideal spacing was 9" by 9" which if I remember was 12lb acre or 14ish kg/ha.
The other thing that is said is the plants lay a 'few' tillers in the autumn and then go prostrate then tiller 'properly' in the spring.
 

rob1

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Location
wiltshire
This is uncharted water for me and you wonder how much of the old journals you can trust but some field tests came to the conclusion that the ideal spacing was 9" by 9" which if I remember was 12lb acre or 14ish kg/ha.
The other thing that is said is the plants lay a 'few' tillers in the autumn and then go prostrate then tiller 'properly' in the spring.
looks like the way triticale grows andthat does cover the ground
 
View attachment 422420 Weaving gd dd into raked osr stubble, one of the main things I like about the gd is the 5inch row spacing for a dd, the coke can gives some idea

Had much problem with slugs? How do you find the hair-pinning in 2nd wheat scenarios? I think that might be somewhere than the GD scores over the 750a. Our agronomist who has seen some of both drills thought as much anyway.
 
Couple of pics from here this autumn so far. JB Diego into S Bean stubble @165kg/ha
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JB Diego into wheat stubble @ 185kg/ha
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Volume Hybrid W Barley into S Barley stubble @84kg/ha
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My best cover crop this year, Pedder's legume free mix @30kg/ha into wheat stubble direct with Weaving Tine drill. Raked before and raked and rolled after.
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Biggest issue we have had all summer/autumn here is a serious lack of rain, wearing metal disappearing at an alarming rate on any soil engaging machine. Cover crops quite poor because its so dry and i'm fed up of looking at my crap OSR of which at least half will be written off due to lack of moisture/flea beetle and slugs. Everyone else's pics of hedge to hedge fields of foot high OSR is really irritating!! The difference probably being an inch of rain at the right time which we never had. DTS drilled cereals as above all looking quite good though with v little slug issues so far, so win some loose some.

Any black-grass coming through yet? Seeing some now in the bad fields. Dry soil is not helping the pre-ems.
 

willy

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
Had much problem with slugs? How do you find the hair-pinning in 2nd wheat scenarios? I think that might be somewhere than the GD scores over the 750a. Our agronomist who has seen some of both drills thought as much anyway.


No real problems regards hairpining! Slugs are about but less than under the claydon, as i feel the ground is firmer and not so easy for them to move about so easy i think!
 

Shutesy

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Any black-grass coming through yet? Seeing some now in the bad fields. Dry soil is not helping the pre-ems.
Our worst fields are all going into spring barley this year. Cover crops sown prior to said barley have got quite a lot of bg in. Least its grown and can be sprayed off! 60 acres of w barley into stubble is clean, 10 acres that was ploughed after drainage works and bad bg has got quite a bit in! Half the 2nd wheats are in bg free fields so they're fine. 1 field with 2 bad patches has had a decent flush, sprayed off and drilling it direct atm with Belepi. Will see if its the wrong decision come spring! Ploughed 1st wheats went into a bit of moisture but so bloody dry now think the pre ems will have run out! All bar one field are pretty bg free anyway. The one that isn't had a small flush which was sprayed off but was still cloddy and dry when drilled and pre-emd mid oct. There is a bit of bg growing again but hard to find. So flipping dry though its nuts. No real rain for months so crap osr, crap cover crops, crap bg flushing and poor seedbeds and rubbish pre em conditions on ploughed land. DTS drilled cereals all into moisture and tilth so happy with them though a rain would help them to! Hows yours looking? Have you done it all with the 750?
 
Our worst fields are all going into spring barley this year. Cover crops sown prior to said barley have got quite a lot of bg in. Least its grown and can be sprayed off! 60 acres of w barley into stubble is clean, 10 acres that was ploughed after drainage works and bad bg has got quite a bit in! Half the 2nd wheats are in bg free fields so they're fine. 1 field with 2 bad patches has had a decent flush, sprayed off and drilling it direct atm with Belepi. Will see if its the wrong decision come spring! Ploughed 1st wheats went into a bit of moisture but so bloody dry now think the pre ems will have run out! All bar one field are pretty bg free anyway. The one that isn't had a small flush which was sprayed off but was still cloddy and dry when drilled and pre-emd mid oct. There is a bit of bg growing again but hard to find. So flipping dry though its nuts. No real rain for months so crap osr, crap cover crops, crap bg flushing and poor seedbeds and rubbish pre em conditions on ploughed land. DTS drilled cereals all into moisture and tilth so happy with them though a rain would help them to! Hows yours looking? Have you done it all with the 750?

Our agronomist who does quite a bit into Essex says that our way has definitely been wetter than well into Essex which he said is very very dry. Might be nice for you though not having to drill in mud and having a reasonably relaxed autumn.

We could have possibly had a small amount more rain, but really we couldn't have wished for a better season to start with the 750a and more direct drilling. We have drilled a lot more autumn crops this year and generally everything is looking well and has gone in well. Have used a lot of slug pellets, but with the exception of about 20ac have kept well on top of the problem. The Terrastar has been a really useful tool to have and I definitely plan to have some sort of shallow movement in at least a decent % of the area. Everything left to drill in the spring has been ploughed and pressed, or has been Terrastared twice. The main negative is that we have some black-grass coming through on a few fields where I think the lack of rainfall has not helped the pre-ems. Overall, though I am very happy with what we've done. Come and have a look some time.
 
Cordiale zero-tilled at 220 kg/ha with 750a into standing stubble. Rolled afterwards. 2 kg/ha metaldehyde with drill. 3 kg/ha on top with quad bike. Should have lifted last year's tramlines as wanted to put some new ones in. Will just have to stick with old ones this year.
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Shutesy

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Our agronomist who does quite a bit into Essex says that our way has definitely been wetter than well into Essex which he said is very very dry. Might be nice for you though not having to drill in mud and having a reasonably relaxed autumn.

We could have possibly had a small amount more rain, but really we couldn't have wished for a better season to start with the 750a and more direct drilling. We have drilled a lot more autumn crops this year and generally everything is looking well and has gone in well. Have used a lot of slug pellets, but with the exception of about 20ac have kept well on top of the problem. The Terrastar has been a really useful tool to have and I definitely plan to have some sort of shallow movement in at least a decent % of the area. Everything left to drill in the spring has been ploughed and pressed, or has been Terrastared twice. The main negative is that we have some black-grass coming through on a few fields where I think the lack of rainfall has not helped the pre-ems. Overall, though I am very happy with what we've done. Come and have a look some time.
Will definitely have to pop over sometime and see how everything's looking, interested to see the terrastar! Most of our land could have taken an inch of rain at the beginning of october and then would have been lovely to drill into throughout october rather than a load of clods and the pre-ems might have worked better! Guess one advantage other than not working in mud is perhaps reduced slug pressure, haven't used many pellets, just the odd bit of light grazing here and there.
 

martian

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Herts
Oats and ash...got a few young trees to add to the mix
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OSR with some companions. Not had any fert
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, sprays or slug pellets. Or rain come to that. A bit thick as we were banking on some being eaten by pests
 

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