Direct/Strip-till drilling photo gallery

Manny

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
In the middle.
From this on the 26th Oct.
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To this yesterday. A bit slow but looking OK.
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Couple of pic from a brief look around today

Everything looking spot on, full crop hedge to hedge, never seen the farm look so good heading towards Christmas


Wheat after spring oats - 750a drilled with Aricks row cleaners

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And winter beans after wheat drilled into cover crops
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Couple of pic from a brief look around today

Everything looking spot on, full crop hedge to hedge, never seen the farm look so good heading towards Christmas


Wheat after spring oats - 750a drilled with Aricks row cleaners

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And winter beans after wheat drilled into cover crops
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IMO those beans will need k to be safe as the cycling from cover crop might not happen by time its required by beans. The cover crop plants look k dependant, more so than cereals etc.

Looks good but, good bird damage cover as well....

Ant...
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
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IMO those beans will need k to be safe as the cycling from cover crop might not happen by time its required by beans. The cover crop plants look k dependant, more so than cereals etc.

Looks good but, good bird damage cover as well....

Ant...

Interesting comment re K - can you eloborate further please ?
 

pine_guy

Member
Location
North Cumbria
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6 weeks in the ground and WB looking good. In with a sim tech.

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Combi drilled the same day, adjoining field, couldn’t get it in very deep with Suffolk coulters and the rooks have hammered it. :mad::cry:
 
Interesting comment re K - can you eloborate further please ?

If planting broadleaf / barrisica species for cover crop which are more hungry for K than say a Cereal or just in general - that amount of biomass would mean that a % of K from the soil is now laying on top of the ground, for that to return in time for the Beans to use maybe a stretch - so personally id be nervous because if you miss producing flowers its not like a cereal where an N shot can get you off the hook. This would be a classic scenario where someone tried cover crops then complained of lower yields, until the K levels or any nutrient for that matter i would be still adding in some until you can afford to leave the overflow on the deck in form of plant matter. In a few years with testing should reach a plateau where not having to add stuff all in.

Thats only my opinion.

Also if sowing early and beans get going before winter will they get leggy? chasing sunlight being buried amongst cover crop - just a thought??

Cheers, Ant
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
If planting broadleaf / barrisica species for cover crop which are more hungry for K than say a Cereal or just in general - that amount of biomass would mean that a % of K from the soil is now laying on top of the ground, for that to return in time for the Beans to use maybe a stretch - so personally id be nervous because if you miss producing flowers its not like a cereal where an N shot can get you off the hook. This would be a classic scenario where someone tried cover crops then complained of lower yields, until the K levels or any nutrient for that matter i would be still adding in some until you can afford to leave the overflow on the deck in form of plant matter. In a few years with testing should reach a plateau where not having to add stuff all in.

Thats only my opinion.

Also if sowing early and beans get going before winter will they get leggy? chasing sunlight being buried amongst cover crop - just a thought??

Cheers, Ant

Makes sense re the K - I wil foliar test in the spring to see how they are coping, soil indices are k though which should help

They are not early for winter beans in the UK - week 1 nov drilled is the norm here and winter will hold them back until spring usually
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Be wary of leaf tests. During rapid vegetative growth K will often show up with a low reading even if there’s a good soil supply. Peak K demand is May to July so your cover crop should have been broken down by then anyway.
 
Makes sense re the K - I wil foliar test in the spring to see how they are coping, soil indices are k though which should help

They are not early for winter beans in the UK - week 1 nov drilled is the norm here and winter will hold them back until spring usually

For the cost of Liquid K with some cu zn - personally i'd spray - as long as what you knockdown is not to much - usually pre flowering they stand back up pretty decent.You could look at ground spread in future until levels are higher than what your average is now, then you should be right - all thats needed is maintenance applications.

Going by your yields quoted flower to pod conversion isn't an issue in your area, i'm lucky where l live its not either, but further north of me it can be poor. Its an important stage of recording that gets missed with beans and leaves everyone scratching there head afterwards as its impossible to tell what went on, did i not get flowers or did i get flowers and were poor or good to convert.

Ant...
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Be wary of leaf tests. During rapid vegetative growth K will often show up with a low reading even if there’s a good soil supply. Peak K demand is May to July so your cover crop should have been broken down by then anyway.

tend to agree they don't always reflect the situation
 

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