Direct/Strip-till drilling photo gallery

EddieB

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Arable Farmer
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Staffs
What seed rates do you use a nd do you find the buckwheat has helped with the flea beetle

3 kg OSR, 3 kg buckwheat (plus 3 kg clover which never established). It was the only field that I companion cropped and the only one not decimated by flea beetles, but it was also the earliest drilled. So don’t know if drilling date or companion cropping was the difference.
 

alomy75

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3 kg OSR, 3 kg buckwheat (plus 3 kg clover which never established). It was the only field that I companion cropped and the only one not decimated by flea beetles, but it was also the earliest drilled. So don’t know if drilling date or companion cropping was the difference.
I struggle with the idea of companion crops; harvest 2020 we had buckwheat and phacelia companion crop trials drilled inter-row of osr and the companion crops grew really well…still zero rape though. I’d lean toward your drilling date observation.
 

Fat hen

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Do you think the roundup did a poor job?

I‘ve had grass grow back in the past however seems to be more to do with the following weather as in warm and wet which seems to assist regrowth.

This year after roundup June with us was dry and the grass has died off better because of that it seems.

I used a better quality glyphosate also which apparently has better wetters.

Sometimes hard water needs an additive to soften to help it work.
250g CItric acid powder added to 1.5l/ha Glyphosate hammers grass and quickly. Highly effective and cheap in these times of Gly shortage
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Wheat going in to ex-GS4 Herb and Legume rich pasture
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The same field a week ago

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And today
 
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Fish

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Location
North yorkshire
Thought I’d share these photos of crops drilled with the old Horsch.
first 2, winter barley into chopped s barley straw, with part of the field having a pass with a low disturbance subsoiler running at 200/225 mm deep.
one shot showing the transition from untouched to moved.
3 W barley drilled 10 days ago.
4 osr drilled a the end of August
5 wheat into chopped s oats
 

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alomy75

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Thought I’d share these photos of crops drilled with the old Horsch.
first 2, winter barley into chopped s barley straw, with part of the field having a pass with a low disturbance subsoiler running at 200/225 mm deep.
one shot showing the transition from untouched to moved.
3 W barley drilled 10 days ago.
4 osr drilled a the end of August
5 wheat into chopped s oats
That’s incredible; which LD subby did you use? Any difference in blw/grassweed emergence +\- subsoiler?
 

Fish

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Location
North yorkshire
That’s incredible; which LD subby did you use? Any difference in blw/grassweed emergence +\- subsoiler?
This thing, Quivogne scd with a guttler on the back.
As to weather there were more weeds after the Quivogne, very difficult to say as the subsoiler went through only the day before the crop was drilled and it had a pre em the day after.
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Weaving GD drilled direct into Winter Linseed stubble
This land not ploughed now for 2 years.
1.3 inches of rain last night and you can walk on it in your best shoes this afternoon!
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2nd year AB9 Winter bird food GD drilled into wheat a week ago. The Kale is now succumbing to the Glyphosate. We should start seeing the wheat emerge soon. The AB9 was zero-tilled in 2019. Last ploughed in 2018.
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Winter Barley GD drilled into Wheat stubble. The Wheat was GD drilled in 2020.
The area to the left was an Arysta Trail area for 2 years. It was in a bit of a mess with every conceivable weed growing on it and panned down like concrete. So it was ploughed, power harrowed, drilled with the Weaving GD and rolled.
WTF would I want to plough anything else otherwise for, any more?
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chaffcutter

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Arable Farmer
Location
S. Staffs
Pleased it’s all going well for you @Two Tone, crops look great. I think that you have got into notill in the right way to be successful, unfortunately lots of people dive in without getting the basics right and then condemn the technique when it doesn’t always work how it should.
Your mention of being able to walk on notilled ground in your shoes after a big rain event is just the proof you need about what’s going on under your feet
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
Pleased it’s all going well for you @Two Tone, crops look great. I think that you have got into notill in the right way to be successful, unfortunately lots of people dive in without getting the basics right and then condemn the technique when it doesn’t always work how it should.
Your mention of being able to walk on notilled ground in your shoes after a big rain event is just the proof you need about what’s going on under your feet
Something @Clive once mentioned that is so true:
If you want something to work, you’ve got to really want it to work.

Yes, there are bound to be a few cock-ups when you start a new technique. But if you can realise and learn why it went wrong, you can rectify the situation next time if you are determined to succeed with it.
“That’ll do” will never do. Sometimes it’ll work and sometimes it won’t. Usually because there was too much hope it’ll work, rather that choosing exactly the right time and conditions to give it every opportunity to succeed.
Every day is a school day.
 

Warnesworth

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BASE UK Member
Location
Chipping Norton
Something @Clive once mentioned that is so true:
If you want something to work, you’ve got to really want it to work.

Yes, there are bound to be a few cock-ups when you start a new technique. But if you can realise and learn why it went wrong, you can rectify the situation next time if you are determined to succeed with it.
“That’ll do” will never do. Sometimes it’ll work and sometimes it won’t. Usually because there was too much hope it’ll work, rather that choosing exactly the right time and conditions to give it every opportunity to succeed.
Every day is a school day.
Good work there @Two Tone
Don't let the pressure ease up on blackgrass control, keep your foot firmly on it's throat, especially now. You'll still have BG germinating from depth for a few years, hopefully the seed on the surface is now under the pressure of disliking its new found environment on the surface, and pre-ems seem to work better when the seed is on the surface.

Consider OSR again going forward, don't underestimate what it's roots can do for your soil. I can't remember if you grow beans but again its another broadleaf with a better root structure for structuring soil than cereals.

Use good quality calcium.
 

Wombat

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BASIS
Location
East yorks
Last 2 years of crap? Poor crops?
Crap autumns. Didn’t get anything drilled in autumn 2019 and last autumn was vaguely better but only for the fact we got something drilled in autumn. At 20m above sea level with 2m of fall in 1km in one direction water breeds water with high mg snot. So we converted our old flat lift to Metcalf ng legs to loosen up some areas and in the end I did the lot. Hopefully won’t need to use much going forward
 
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alomy75

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Didn’t get anything drilled in autumn 2019 and last autumn was vaguely better but only for the fact we got something drilled in autumn. At 20m above sea level with 2m of fall in 1km in one direction water breeds water with high mg snot. So we converted our old flat lift to Metcalf ng legs to loosen up some areas and in the end I did the lot. Hopefully won’t need to use much going forward
Ah I see. We are the same; sea level is about 5 bricks up from ground level here (south lincs) so we soon get a lake if things aren’t right. Pleased to see last year tho that the dd field had no more water than the conventional tillage next door drilled a day apart
 

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