Dirty Scruffy Nation?

[Martin Holden]

getting worse where i live? maybe my problem is ive lived in my village to long? we like to keep our farm neat and tidy, its not just about money , money to plants trees, i plant trees because i like them, i pick up rubbish and keep the verges trimmed because i like it tidy, but the rubbish, including dog poo in bags gets worse most of this is from people in the village, behind their electric gates, im all right jack? talk about the environment ? noone cares here rubbish tipped in river, signs still in the river? last insult yesterday utilty company was installing new cable, i see this morning they have left all their rubbish including bits of cable in my field?

It’s a state of mind. It cost nothing to tidy up after yourself. It’s common decency to do so. Like you I can’t stand a mess anywhere and will spend time to make things tidy before stopping a job. As a dog owner it really annoys me that some pick up dog poo into the proper bags and theN leave the bags dangling on fences or whatever for who to pick up?

 

[bluebell]

dare i say that the free love, break down all the barriers and social taboos that the 1960s counter culture was about ,has now fruited ? and i grew up in the 1960s?

 

[bluebell]

the english at one time were world wide respected for manners, fairplay, honesty, waiting patiently their turn, , its paroded in dads army, all our great heroes are constantly under attack, all the traditions seem to be an imparisment, to me it seems many want to erase our great countries history from the past and start from the year 2000?

 

[Chasingmytail]

The issue over all is the over use of plastics. Is it that recyclable and the carbon footprint of doing so much be enormous. So deposits on bottles etc will just fuel the demand for more plastic. We need to cut down on plastics overall. Why do we need all these fizzy drinks? Just population constantly on the stuffing mode.

 

[yellow belly]

the parish council hear organises paid litter pickers who cover the village the county council then cover the rest of the parish roads

but people still chuck stuff out of their cars the media is full of pollution causing climate change but the general public still pollutes the countryside
every one has bins collected for free so there is no excuse for throwing rubbish in the countryside

 

[bluebell]

its nothing todo with the overuse of plastics, thats a different matter? im talking about the sad decline in attitude to the everything? from manners, to swearing in public to no respect for your countryside or country? whats being taught or is it now anything goes its not my responsiblity mate? i dont give a dam ?

 

[honeyend]

The problem with making rubbish valuable to charities or whoever picks it up is it could encourage more rubbish to be chucked out the window, “just doing my bit for charity “

They have done a study where they picked up all the rubbish on one side of the street in a town centre but not the other. Leaving rubbish makes it seem OK to drop more rubbish, so eventually the side that was kept clean eventually the amount of rubbish dropped lessened.
I think its the same as dog poop, people would not leave it at home but as soon as its not their property they think its OK, everyone does it, one more bit doesn't matter and the council will collect it, and we pay for it. Its not just kids and teenagers or the uneducated, we had a charity running race and there was rubbish after that, posh sports drinks.

 

[bluebell]

please , please , any forum members reading this from usa, newzealand, canada or any others make a comment on how it is in your country?

 

[Tarw Coch]

The issue over all is the over use of plastics. Is it that recyclable and the carbon footprint of doing so much be enormous. So deposits on bottles etc will just fuel the demand for more plastic. We need to cut down on plastics overall. Why do we need all these fizzy drinks? Just population constantly on the stuffing mode.

What did folk used to drink before cans/bottles of fizzy pop?

 

[Suckndiesel]

please , please , any forum members reading this from usa, newzealand, canada or any others make a comment on how it is in your country?

Been to New Zealand a couple of times now, little to zero rubbish at the side of the roads there, it just doesn’t seem to happen much there.

Have a couple of mates that were there working a few years after me, they were heading into the local town for a night out and on the way there one of them threw a beer bottle out the window. Had a night out on the town and stayed there that night, on the way home the next day they managed to drive over said beer bottle and punctured a tyre. They had no spare wheel, bit of karma!

 

[Paddington]

Back in the day on holiday with my parents in Norway, we remarked how clean the streets were until we arrived in a small village where the inhabitants were busy picking up strewn litter on a grassy area. Dad asked if they knew who had dropped the litter ? They did, it was that filthy lot from L****s who came every year on a coach trip and left their rubbish. We knew the place as a small village in North Yorkshire. Dad immediately took on the role of acting ambassador to Yorkshire and apologised for the behaviour of the dirty British, only to be told that L****s was actually 20K up the road!

 

[berisford]

What did folk used to drink before cans/bottles of fizzy pop?

I can remember drinking corona tango,there was a good deposit on the bottles they would go straight back,used to search for them,for the deposit rarely find any empty ones.

 

[Paddington]

Watching an Aussie Off Roading video last night they were saying how dirty remote camp sites were becoming, not just tins and bottles, but used loo paper etc. To get to the camp sites people had driven hundreds of miles with full tins and bottles, only to leave the empties.

 

[Mr Mackay]

... and request to clear it, or an invoice for your own labour.

We had the best solution. A local scroat was clearing garden shrubs for cash, and as he hadn’t got any form of license to tip, was dropping all his clippings along the verges. Including ours.
He was seen doing this, and took off like a rocket, clutching one bunch of twigs and with his trailer bouncing behind his car. He didn’t return home that night to be told to clear it responsibly, so at daylight the next morning, one of our tractors removed the detritus with a 6’ silage grab and dropped it in his driveway. ??

We didn’t hear any more, and the verges are clear. ?? Return to sender?

Ha ha !!
That reminds me of that episode of One Foot In The Grave , where Victor keeps his eye on the open topped sports car that driven by an owner who upsets him,in some way I forget!

He later in the day grabs hold of a smelly bin of rubbish and tips it inside the sports car , only to see the owner come out of the building and get in a similar car a bit further down the street !!

 

[Netherfield]

But talking of rubbish, we went up a lane today to see plastic and glass bottles thrown in the verge, Mrs N just said "think when they've stopped using plastic and gone back to all glass, how much broken glass there will be in the verges and on the roads".

A few minutes later we're walking the dog on one of the reservoir lanes and come across a whole set of leather car seats abandoned at the side, now why would anyone strip a car like that and dump them.

 

[Goweresque]

I can remember drinking corona tango,there was a good deposit on the bottles they would go straight back,used to search for them,for the deposit rarely find any empty ones.

I found one a couple of years ago:

Where can I take it to get my 10p????

 

[Netherfield]

I can remember drinking corona tango,there was a good deposit on the bottles they would go straight back,used to search for them,for the deposit rarely find any empty ones.

We used to search a building sites in the village, imagine being able to do that these days, any way builders would discard empty pop bottles(4 old pennies) we would take them back for the deposit, and the local milkmen would give us a penny for any milk bottles we recovered for them, just shows even in the 1960s builders were scruffy beggars, and obviously paid too much because the deposit was a quarter of the price of a full one.

 

[Chae1]

But talking of rubbish, we went up a lane today to see plastic and glass bottles thrown in the verge, Mrs N just said "think when they've stopped using plastic and gone back to all glass, how much broken glass there will be in the verges and on the roads".

A few minutes later we're walking the dog on one of the reservoir lanes and come across a whole set of leather car seats abandoned at the side, now why would anyone strip a car like that and dump them.

What were you and mrs N up to in this lane!?

Sure I'm not the only Scottish contributor who remembers glass bottles of irn bru!? Used to have one every night from chip shop with a king rib in a bun on farm i worked on for harvest. Got 10p to return them. Never threw any away think i got my tea free for 1 night on empty bottles.

 

[Netherfield]

What were you and mrs N up to in this lane!?

Sure I'm not the only Scottish contributor who remembers glass bottles of irn bru!? Used to have one every night from chip shop with a king rib in a bun on farm i worked on for harvest. Got 10p to return them. Never threw any away think i got my tea free for 1 night on empty bottles.

Walking the dog, did you miss that bit

 

[Chae1]

Walking the dog, did you miss that bit

Yes. My mind was in the gutter as always.