Disappointed

[Clive]

times money and it may not be a 100% accurate but it aint some one bull shitting down the pub about yields he has a fair idea of exactly what each field is yielding and how many tons he has for the year so can take a good stab at what he can sell and keep for the bull beef and dairy.

as I said in my opening post I don't doubt that some have achieved good yield - I do suggest they are the exception vs the norm though this year and can only laugh at those that say 4t is a disappointment !

here's an interesting thing ...................My yields are maybe 2/3rds of what these amazing farmers suggest they regularly achieve, I can pay my staff well, pay the rent, enjoy life buy more land, invest in infrastructure and generally want for very little and have decent profit left every year, I can only conclude that any farmer quoteing these yields in FW etc is making an obscene amount of cash ???? Maybe sfp should be yield related ? I bet there would be a bit less bulls**t about then !

 

[Thick Farmer]

I've never managed over 3 tonne an acre for any cereals. Does that mean I'm going to go bankrupt?!

 

[Clive]

I've never managed over 3 tonne an acre for any cereals. Does that mean I'm going to go bankrupt?!

apparently so !!

 

[Feldspar]

I spoke to a very experienced agronomist the other day and his advice was to ignore what you read about yields in the farming press. I do pay more attention to the benchmark figures that our accountants give us which I believe to be fairly reliable.

 

[John 1594]

our february drilled Claire w/w did 2.5-2.7 t/acre at the most, pathetic i know, but its had only £50-60 acre of inputs. And it went for biscuit making at a premium over standard feed wheat, so im happy enough.

 

[grumpy]

I've never managed over 3 tonne an acre for any cereals. Does that mean I'm going to go bankrupt?!

no,and i better no tell you about the place i was baling at yesterday next to the world record of wheat used to be.

 

[gone up the hill]

I thought the average t/acre of winter wheat in the UK was something like 3.27/t acre in a normal year??? so just makes me laugh when you read the FG/FW etc and no one has had a field yield less than 4/t acre and are averaging 4.5/t/ acre... total BS !! no other sections off the general media would get away with reporting figures that they cant back up so why should the farming press??? Like the bloke from Taunton on the back page of this weeks FG: if he did actually average 3+ t/acre of winter barley straw then fair enough..... but can he actually prove it to the editors before it goes in print??? if he cant then the editors have no right to let the writers quote such stupid figures imo!!!!!

 

[Clive]

I thought the average t/acre of winter wheat in the UK was something like 3.27/t acre in a normal year??? so just makes me laugh when you read the FG/FW etc and no one has had a field yield less than 4/t acre and are averaging 4.5/t/ acre... total BS !! no other sections off the general media would get away with reporting figures that they cant back up so why should the farming press??? Like the bloke from Taunton on the back page of this weeks FG: if he did actually average 3+ t/acre of winter barley straw then fair enough..... but can he actually prove it to the editors before it goes in print??? if he cant then the editors have no right to let the writers quote such stupid figures imo!!!!!

But how do they even arrive at that average official figure ? No one really knows is the truth when home feeding and carry over etc are considered

 

[smbflame]

Ive always said its getting high risk game. My yield are crap salvage job .rotation is a complete mess. More rape (dare I say it)going in. Need more first wheats so will plough more turf up and reseed crap fields. My agrii agronomist said the rape yields are rubbish around these parts. Ive stopped all magazines a year ago .too many people with big egoes we can't all be into form all the while were human after all. better look next harvest lol .Take it easy

 

[smbflame]

Spring wheat and barley have done me proud. Will put results up when they arive

 

[gone up the hill]

But how do they even arrive at that average official figure ? No one really knows is the truth when home feeding and carry over etc are considered

From what I understand from a group of farmers who are asked to submit their harvest figures.... most is done on guesswork imo and is prob rounded upwards!!!

All I know is my spring barley looked great ( prob the best ever on average across the whole acreage... plenty of straw but grain is rubbish... no idea why as it is a lovely bold sample and looked like plenty of it before it was cut!! will be lucky to average 2/t acre across the board when I would normal average 2.7/t/acre and quite often hitting over 3t./acre... ( figures rounded down )

Must be something in the old boys saying about spring crops : if you get plenty of straw you wont get the grain and if you get plenty of grain you wont get the straw!!! you just cant win ....

 

[chaffcutter]

It seems to be universally agreed that the last two years have presented us all with plenty of challenges and this has caused lots of people to be more innovative / imaginative / experimental in the ways they have grown their crops, I think that a lot of this experience should improve results should we ever be fortunate enough to get a " normal" year's weather!

 

[Walterp]

I don't understand what the fuss is about - one of our Farming Connect monitor farmers (who also appears as a feature in the FG fairly regularly) manages his wheat, on very unpromising, thin land at 1,000' up in the Preselis, so as to achieve 4 tonne per acre. And he isn't even an arable farmer, but a cattleman.

We gave up growing corn 'cos we couldn't make it pay, on ground that was twice as deep and only a fifth in height above sea level.

 

[gone up the hill]

I don't understand what the fuss is about - one of our Farming Connect monitor farmers (who also appears as a feature in the FG fairly regularly) manages his wheat, on very unpromising, thin land at 1,000' up in the Preselis, so as to achieve 4 tonne per acre. And he isn't even an arable farmer, but a cattleman.

We gave up growing corn 'cos we couldn't make it pay, on ground that was twice as deep and only a fifth in height above sea level.

And he achieves two ton/acre on average then lol.......!!!! ( but says it is four ton/acre no doubt!!!!

 

[Daniel]

here's an interesting thing ...................My yields are maybe 2/3rds of what these amazing farmers suggest they regularly achieve, I can pay my staff well, pay the rent, enjoy life buy more land, invest in infrastructure and generally want for very little and have decent profit left every year

Ok so we can manage all the above except the buying more land bit, must be down to the zero-till?!!

 

[Chae1]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like screaming if they read of just one more poor farmer who is 'disappointed' by his 4t/ac average wheat and 2t/ac osr this year ? Both terrible in such a 'tricky season' below the farms 5 year average of course

I don't doubt some can do and have done that but they must be in a serious minority this year surely ? We see this every year but this year particularly it has very little credibility, where have all these 'disappointing' crops been hiding the last 12 months as most of what I have seen of the UK has looked terrible

Why are farmers such natural born bullshitters ? And not bright enough to see all they do is talk rent and input prices up and commodity prices down with their pointless bragging ?

The farming press is getting close to loosing the tiny bit of credibility it might have left but I guess they have little choice than to justify all the sponsored articles promoting wonder inputs clearly have worked !

Why are you disappointed? Surely you have been around long enough to realise a lot of farmers are full full of sh!t? It's part of life, just accept it.

 

[Thick Farmer]

When I was using all the grain myself I though the yields were very good (cos we just counted the trailer loads and assumed they were full weight).

Once I started selling it and it all got put over a weigh bridge then reality set in...

 

[Will Blackburn]

The very very local High Legh wheat trials site has averaged 11.91 t/ha, (previous crop wheat). This makes my yet to be completed average look distinctly below average. We will do well to top 7.0 t/ha after the Spring sown Winter wheat is cut. Normal average yields are 8.1 t/ha.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I would have thought your only reliable average would be a 5 year one, every one knew it was going to be a dumb year for wheat

 

[rob1]

When I was using all the grain myself I though the yields were very good (cos we just counted the trailer loads and assumed they were full weight).

Once I started selling it and it all got put over a weigh bridge then reality set in...

When you store at central store your tonnage is dried down to 15.5% with storage loss of 1% plus screenings to take of too, can make quite a diiference to the average yield compared to someone weighing at home at 17% plus . Only average that is important is the tonnes i get paid for and the profit per tonne, if any