Discovery 4 engine seized

[msheep66]

That was one of the reasons why I bought one of the last of the Disco 4s as I believe they have sorted most of the problems out, instead of buying a new more expensive Disco 5.

 

[Fragonard]

That's all I kept that one for. I kept another one, that was like new when I sold it with 99,000 miles on the clock. In case you don't know it, I also have a Land Cruiser with 185,000 miles on the clock. So I know what they are like relatively. I bet your neighbour's hasn't actually been trouble free for those miles either, although it might be 'reasonably' trouble free.

The engine is still original.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

The engine is still original.

Don't argue with the Duck

 

[Cowabunga]

That was one of the reasons why I bought one of the last of the Disco 4s as I believe they have sorted most of the problems out, instead of buying a new more expensive Disco 5.

Most of the problems with the new Disco are first world 21stC things like the USB sockets not working consistently and SIM cards not being recognised by the on-board modem-thing.

 

[ollandroverman]

40k miles trouble free on a range rover and you call it superb?
A neighbour has a landcruiser with 370k miles on it, trouble free.
Just wondering what would you call that?

IMHO theres no that many of us that can boast we run money pit (Recent) LR vehicles on here.
The ones that cost more than say £20k atleast.
if you can then its not on the back of normal farming income thats for sure. Just my views of course.

I recovered so many of the darn things a few years ago i wouldnt touch one with a barge-pole

To give a little context to the argument , land Rover vehicles were sold in much higher numbers in Britain than many rivals in their class. Due to the numbers sold you are far more likely to find a broken Discovery than you are something like a Landcruiser 200

 

[Cowabunga]

To give a little context to the argument , land Rover vehicles were sold in much higher numbers in Britain than many rivals in their class. Due to the numbers sold you are far more likely to find a broken Discovery than you are something like a Landcruiser 200

You will very very rarely see a LC200 at all. In all the time since they were first sold I think I've only seen five or six on the road. They are like hen's teeth. They just didn't sell. The previous two models, the 80 and 100 series sold like buns at Easter though, but only to a select few of us. I see 100 series on the roads almost every day, and they aren't the same ones either.

Nevertheless they number only a small fraction of Discovery's and Range Rover's on the roads, which are as common as cowpats on a meadow in September.

 

[Farma Parma]

I'd take that with a big pinch of salt. 600k miles is around 4 times the design life of VW engines. Taxis are unlikely to average more than 15mph over their life, but let's be generous and say that they average 20mph. That's 30,000 engine hours. For a VW engine! For two of them. Hmm.
While they might be the original engines, just how many overhauls and repairs have they had?

All these mega claims can all be taken with a pinch of salt. Especially the ones relayed second hand.

Local Hospital Car operator clocked 470,000miles on same engined Skoda Superb
Apart from normal servicing items every 10,000miles right through its life.
the 1.9 TDI PD VW Diesel 130hp afaik.
Yes it had alot of money spent to keep it going but was the same engine in it.

 

[Farma Parma]

To give a little context to the argument , land Rover vehicles were sold in much higher numbers in Britain than many rivals in their class. Due to the numbers sold you are far more likely to find a broken Discovery than you are something like a Landcruiser 200

Oh yes of course your are indeed very correct.
Hardly ever had any of the most popular Family Cars sold in the UK tho so what does that tell you?
75% of what i moved was LR or French Made.
the other 25% was German.
Had one single SEAT CAR in them 5 yrs.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Local Hospital Car operator clocked 470,000miles on same engined Skoda Superb
Apart from normal servicing items every 10,000miles right through its life.
the 1.9 TDI PD VW Diesel 130hp afaik.
Yes it had alot of money spent to keep it going but was the same engine in it.

Are you sure?
Isn't this story far fetched?
One may says it's a pinch of salt?
Unless you know better

 

[Farma Parma]

Are you sure?
Isn't this story far fetched?
One may says it's a pinch of salt?
Unless you know better

Yes 100% not joking.
Just trying to get its private reg no & then i might could confirm a few things

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Yes 100% not joking.
Just trying to get its private reg no & then i might could confirm a few things

Good man, that's the spirit

 

[Farma Parma]

Reg No. transferred on a newer Skoda now so cant get info. Bugger

 

[itsalwaysme]

Yes it had alot of money spent to keep it going but was the same engine in it.

I suppose for this sort of thing to be valid it should not have had any major work on the engine, i.e the block crankshaft pistons and head should all be original and untouched. It's not uncommon for "average" cars and vans to do 200-250,000 miles with the engines untouched apart from servicing (I've recently seen a Transit Connect that has done 39,000 miles in a year, no service or anything, just 1 set of front pads and discs in that time) (Years ago a mate had a Vauxhall Carlton estate it did close on 400,000 miles with engine untouched, he didn't even service it regularly, it became a bit of a game to see how many miles it would do, I think the car virtually fell apart around the engine though eventually) If something like a Transit Connect can achieve 200,000+ miles without any major problems it seems odd that "premium" brands at "premium" cost, can't seem to get the basics right, although engine technology has changed dramatically, the same principal of crankshaft pistons etc is still used.

 

[roscoe erf]

I suppose for this sort of thing to be valid it should not have had any major work on the engine, i.e the block crankshaft pistons and head should all be original and untouched. It's not uncommon for "average" cars and vans to do 200-250,000 miles with the engines untouched apart from servicing (I've recently seen a Transit Connect that has done 39,000 miles in a year, no service or anything, just 1 set of front pads and discs in that time) (Years ago a mate had a Vauxhall Carlton estate it did close on 400,000 miles with engine untouched, he didn't even service it regularly, it became a bit of a game to see how many miles it would do, I think the car virtually fell apart around the engine though eventually) If something like a Transit Connect can achieve 200,000+ miles without any major problems it seems odd that "premium" brands at "premium" cost, can't seem to get the basics right, although engine technology has changed dramatically, the same principal of crankshaft pistons etc is still used.

I had a 2.5td mark 3 transit that did 275000 with us original engine and exhaust oil changed every 6000 from new

 

[itsalwaysme]

I had a 2.5td mark 3 transit that did 275000 with us original engine and exhaust oil changed every 6000 from new

They were good engines, a vast improvement on the ones before, There are still a few of the old G and H reg ones about.
Exhaust systems are lasting much longer these days.

 

[Farma Parma]

They were good engines, a vast improvement on the ones before, There are still a few of the old G and H reg ones about.
Exhaust systems are lasting much longer these days.

Ive never changed an Exhaust on a Diesel car here in the last 20years.
Compared to Petrol's which would go after 3 or 4 years Rotting from the inside of course due to the Water produced
from burning petrol ? which diesels do not do.
My Last Car is still on its original exhaust apart from some minor welding to rear silencer support brackets.
now 13yr old & clocked 122,000miles. I know this as a neighbour bought it from me & still see it regular.
My 14yr old nearly Suzuki Vitara is all original still & only clocked 79,000miles.

 

[Lincsman]

Local Hospital Car operator clocked 470,000miles on same engined Skoda Superb
Apart from normal servicing items every 10,000miles right through its life.
the 1.9 TDI PD VW Diesel 130hp afaik.
Yes it had alot of money spent to keep it going but was the same engine in it.

I had the same engine in a Galaxy, didnt make it to 55K miles.

 

[Campbell]

Local Hospital Car operator clocked 470,000miles on same engined Skoda Superb
Apart from normal servicing items every 10,000miles right through its life.
the 1.9 TDI PD VW Diesel 130hp afaik.
Yes it had alot of money spent to keep it going but was the same engine in it.

Another cheer for the brilliant workhorse VW 1.9 TDi PD engine, still keeping most of eastern Europe motoring. 166k [synth oil] miles on our Passat, with many more to go, before the fumes consign it to history.............

 

[Farma Parma]

Another cheer for the brilliant workhorse VW 1.9 TDi PD engine, still keeping most of eastern Europe motoring. 166k [synth oil] miles on our Passat, with many more to go, before the fumes consign it to history.............

Its quite poss the best TDI engine VW has ever made
along similar lines to the 3cyl perkins models in the 35/135
i can go & start both of mine today the 135 fires up instantly its 53yr old !
some feat that. the 35 is 3 years older but needs heating to start it.

 

[Farma Parma]

That VW PD engine poss still has higher diesel injection pressure over all these common rail
replacements ever since. Wikipedia has all the info.