Disgraceful that John Deere turning blind eye to JD gps system thefts.

[nosmokenopoke]

its abit like all the expensive kit the US left in Afganistan, that the tailban have got hold of? If the apache helicopters had a remotely operated device that could make it so it wouldnt run and start?

Be better if they could blow them up remotely

 

[Still Farming]

Why can't they make them obsolete or unable to connect to any systems?
They bound to know their id or codes?

 

[Martin Holden]

So every time we remove the receiver at night it would fry itself. Fantastic.

Just take the kit out at night and lock them in the office- end of problem!

Exactly. We had a Case demo tractor with GPS on and we removed the receiver dome and the cab screen and simply kept them in hotel room at night. Can’t pinch them so easily then. However that’s not an issue for us casual users. If you use it every day clambering onto the roof to take it off is a faff but far less hassle to do this than have it pinched.

 

[mf7480]

Exactly. We had a Case demo tractor with GPS on and we removed the receiver dome and the cab screen and simply kept them in hotel room at night. Can’t pinch them so easily then. However that’s not an issue for us casual users. If you use it every day clambering onto the roof to take it off is a faff but far less hassle to do this than have it pinched.

To be fair its not every day the GPS is even needed, probably only a third of the time

 

[Martin Holden]

To be fair its not every day the GPS is even needed, probably only a third of the time

More an issue for Contractors I guess

 

[holywell farmer]

Wonder who buys the stolen gps units, no honest farmer would buy something they suspect was stolen.

 

[JeepJeep]

Wonder who buys the stolen gps units, no honest farmer would buy something they suspect was stolen.

Flip Flop Farmers.. Bargains See... must be cheap.

 

[milkloss]

I mean I’m no technological expert but I’m pretty sure in the world of telematics… JD link all that rubbish It should be very bloody easy…. Farmer rings police “my GPS has been stolen” … then he rings his JD dealer “can you tell me where my GPS dome is please?”…. JD dealer gives an exact grid reference for where in the world the JD dome is… farmer then rings police and says “here you are lads this is where my JD dome is that got stole a few hours ago”… police go and retrieve and arrest the robbers

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Fcking joking right?

 

[Lofty1984]

Wonder who buys the stolen gps units, no honest farmer would buy something they suspect was stolen.

Trouble is there are a hell of allot of dishonest farmers sadly

 

[PaulNix]

Exactly. We had a Case demo tractor with GPS on and we removed the receiver dome and the cab screen and simply kept them in hotel room at night. Can’t pinch them so easily then. However that’s not an issue for us casual users. If you use it every day clambering onto the roof to take it off is a faff but far less hassle to do this than have it pinched.

Biggest issue would be to find a hotel handy for most users without going to far out of our way on the trip home.

 

[Martin Holden]

Biggest issue would be to find a hotel handy for most users without going to far out of our way on the trip home.

I was referring to demo tractors not farmers own machines

 

[bravheart]

So the reciever(dome) now needs to be built into the tractor as does the screen as 2,3,4 or 5 piece units and come as a standard fit with the log in being the cash cow.
Remember the good old days when the local yobs would smash the car side window and be off with your radio(cassette player) in seconds and cash it in down the pub in an hour.
AFAIK those days are gone primarily because each car maker built the radios as 2 and 3 piece items built into the dash . Don't fit other makes of car and fitting it to every car reduced demand.

 

[Robt]

So the reciever(dome) now needs to be built into the tractor as does the screen as 2,3,4 or 5 piece units and come as a standard fit with the log in being the cash cow.
Remember the good old days when the local yobs would smash the car side window and be off with your radio(cassette player) in seconds and cash it in down the pub in an hour.
AFAIK those days are gone primarily because each car maker built the radios as 2 and 3 piece items built into the dash . Don't fit other makes of car and fitting it to every car reduced demand.

With a small impact driver, 1 x 10mm socket, 1 x torques fitting . I could easily have the receiver out of the roof of a fendt in less than a minute. Maybe 2 if you have to smash the door to get in cab.

 

[bravheart]

With a small impact driver, 1 x 10mm socket, 1 x torques fitting . I could easily have the receiver out of the roof of a fendt in less than a minute. Maybe 2 if you have to smash the door to get in cab.

I don't doubt you could, know very little about Fendt but sounds like the receivers are under the roof skin and perhaps hidden completely so mr.light fingers doesn't know if the tractor has a system fitted which would be a help but even better if all Fendts have this system installed then there would be no point in pinching it. As I said the cash point then being the log in codes.

 

[DairyGrazing]

Are these unit’s being stolen as badly worldwide?
Surely the reply insurance companies must be jumping on tractor manufacturers to make these GPS systems detectable or inoperative unless one has a password or something you have to enter into the device to enable it to work.
But as some have said there are some very clever people out their working as thieves!!

Yes where I worked in Canada and America it was a big deal. Don't remember hearing much when I was in NZ or AUS.

 

[holywell farmer]

So the reciever(dome) now needs to be built into the tractor as does the screen as 2,3,4 or 5 piece units and come as a standard fit with the log in being the cash cow.
Remember the good old days when the local yobs would smash the car side window and be off with your radio(cassette player) in seconds and cash it in down the pub in an hour.
AFAIK those days are gone primarily because each car maker built the radios as 2 and 3 piece items built into the dash . Don't fit other makes of car and fitting it to every car reduced demand.

Its catalytic converters they are stealing now from cars the local yobs.

 

[clbarclay]

I have thought about getting some one with a 3d printer to make a different coloured dome with post code name etc molded in to the plastic. If it was possible. And maybe some sort of tracker molded in as well

I would like to think any thief would take one look at my printed receiver housings and decide that unbranded stuff won't be worth the effort. Only cost about £250 to replace one of those receivers if they do take a fancy to them.

 

[Robt]

I don't doubt you could, know very little about Fendt but sounds like the receivers are under the roof skin and perhaps hidden completely so mr.light fingers doesn't know if the tractor has a system fitted which would be a help but even better if all Fendts have this system installed then there would be no point in pinching it. As I said the cash point then being the log in codes.

These aren’t simply optunistic thieves. These are targeted attack and they will know exactly what and where they are looking

 

[Chris W]

The new JD solution should be the answer IMO.

Receivers built into the tractor in multiple parts and locations and importantly software activations locked to tractor serial number.

Unfortunately it will be a few years before I have a fleet with the new cabs.

In the mean time, Tracker now make a unit that will fit inside the domes … until these become common place they are unlikely to look for it

 

[holywell farmer]

Trouble is there are a hell of allot of dishonest farmers sadly

Would think if farmer brought a gps system that was stolen he could be caught out if another farmers details were found on the hard drive.