Disgusting dog owners!

Are the poo bags not normally hung up when the owner takes Fido for a walk, to pick up on the way back, rather than carrying them all the way?

I know they don’t all get recovered, but that’s usually the intention.

I’d sooner that than dog sh*te all over my grass fields, not that half of them would pick it up in the first place here.😡
I had a lockdown dog walker let his dog sh!t in one of my fields every day for about a week last winter. Picked it up with a trowel and chucked it out of the Gator window into his front garden as I drove past each day. He soon worked it out and there was no more dog sh!t!
 

choochter

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Location
aberdeenshire
In Scotland we have a common public order offence called 'Breach of the peace'.

Generally, it is described as conduct severe enough to cause alarm to ordinary people and threaten serious disturbance to the community…conduct which does present as genuinely alarming and disturbing, in its context, to any reasonable people.

However, if there is no evidence of actual alarm, the conduct must be “flagrant” if it is to justify a conviction.

“Flagrant” is a strong word and the use of that word points to a standard of conduct which would be alarming or seriously disturbing to any reasonable person in the particular circumstances.
(https://crime.scot/breach-of-the-peace/)

In my view, hanging bags of dog poo on bushes, gates or other constitutes a breach of the peace.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I had a lockdown dog walker let his dog sh!t in one of my fields every day for about a week last winter. Picked it up with a trowel and chucked it out of the Gator window into his front garden as I drove past each day. He soon worked it out and there was no more dog sh!t!

I was strimming around one side of my shed only to strim a dog turd and shower myself with it. Left by one of the dogs on the shoot. They turn up with their range rovers and fancy kit; dogs sh!t where they want, and they cry when I put the rent up. It's not just townies.
 
In Scotland we have a common public order offence called 'Breach of the peace'.

Generally, it is described as conduct severe enough to cause alarm to ordinary people and threaten serious disturbance to the community…conduct which does present as genuinely alarming and disturbing, in its context, to any reasonable people.

However, if there is no evidence of actual alarm, the conduct must be “flagrant” if it is to justify a conviction.

“Flagrant” is a strong word and the use of that word points to a standard of conduct which would be alarming or seriously disturbing to any reasonable person in the particular circumstances.
(https://crime.scot/breach-of-the-peace/)

In my view, hanging bags of dog poo on bushes, gates or other constitutes a breach of the peace.
Common Law "breach of the peace" is very rarely charged now since the advent of Section 38 of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010, which makes it an offence for a person to "behave in a threatening or abusive manner" in a way "likely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear or alarm". It closed a tricky loophole where a person could not commit a "breach of the peace" in their own house, because, as you pointed out the Common Law charge requires "serious disturbance to the community". Sec 38 also addressed an issue whereby the Common Law "breach of the peace" had become so vague that it fell foul of Article 7 of the ECHR, which basically states that you can't be punished for something if you couldn't reasonably have known if it was illegal or not.

In any event, disgusting though the behaviour in question is, you'd have great difficulty proving that it was "threatening or abusive" unless it was aimed at an individual. Likewise, it would be unlikely to fall under the now limited scope of a breach of the peace where a clear statutory alternative exists eg littering or dog fouling.

Personally - I'd pay money to see the OP force feed it to the culprits!
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Spoke too her yesterday gave her both barrels and she rang this morning too see if I’d checked the rest over yet and offered too come and help me which I declined but checked the rest of the lambs over and was one with a bite on its back leg but nothing serious rang her up and she was very apologetic and seemed pretty genuine too me so have billed her £500 for my time and the lamb and she paid me within minutes so iv left it at that iv enough worry’s at the minute without that too worry about too going on

Unless she does something about the dog, it will happen again. Hopefully it never gets let loose again, ever!
 

Bongodog

Member
Are the poo bags not normally hung up when the owner takes Fido for a walk, to pick up on the way back, rather than carrying them all the way?

I know they don’t all get recovered, but that’s usually the intention.

I’d sooner that than dog sh*te all over my grass fields, not that half of them would pick it up in the first place here.😡
I admire your belief in basic human courtesy, unfortunately however there must be an awful lot of very forgetful people as bags of dogshit are literally everywhere, plus some of the owners must be very nimble to collect up the bags 10 foot up a hedge the other side of a ditch on their return journey.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I admire your belief in basic human courtesy, unfortunately however there must be an awful lot of very forgetful people as bags of dogshit are literally everywhere, plus some of the owners must be very nimble to collect up the bags 10 foot up a hedge the other side of a ditch on their return journey.

Yes, admittedly some of the culprits should have it smeared over their faces…
Perhaps I’ve been lucky here, but I regularly see them on handy hanging places here, and my blood pressure starts to rise, but most have gone a couple of hours later.

Dogs allowed to shite all over the fields with nobody clearing up does more harm to my blood pressure these days.😡
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Are the poo bags not normally hung up when the owner takes Fido for a walk, to pick up on the way back, rather than carrying them all the way?

I know they don’t all get recovered, but that’s usually the intention.

I’d sooner that than dog sh*te all over my grass fields, not that half of them would pick it up in the first place here.😡
I’ve had the bástards bag their dog shite and fling it into my silage fields over 8ft hedges. Some people are just scum.
 

Lofty1984

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Posted in the grinds your gears thread the other day on the beach with my little lad we were playing just on the tide had to dodge a poo bag gently lapping the sand and the slip way down to the beach is about 50 yards you can 100% be sure you have to avoid dog shite on it. You see it all the time owner with their head in their phone dog 10 yards back shitting
 

Alias

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancashire
A friend had an antique (junk) shop in the village and a man came in with his dog , looking round and chatting for 5-10 minutes. As he left he handed over a plastic bag, saying " There, you can have that". "Oh, thank you" said my friend, thinking it was a bag of toffees. It wasn't until after he had left that he looked in the bag and realized what it was 💩🤢
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
What IS it about the English that seems to place dogs in a position of such protection

why are dogs so special 🤷‍♂️ ? 😡😡

just shoot the cû*nts, like any other feral pest animal
Not just dogs, there’s an animal obsession.

Take RSPB, anyone with half a brain knows cats kill birds, but you’ll not hear a cheap from them about it in case they upset the cat loving old biddies who they’ve got financing them on the direct debit hook. Garden bird decline is all down to loss of hedgerows and climate change apparently. 🤔🙄
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Not just dogs, there’s an animal obsession.

Take RSPB, anyone with half a brain knows cats kill birds, but you’ll not hear a cheap from them about it in case they upset the cat loving old biddies who they’ve got financing them on the direct debit hook. Garden bird decline is all down to loss of hedgerows and climate change apparently. 🤔🙄

i live on 6 acres on the edge of town, bought it 2 years ago now near the end of a raging 3 - 4 year drought. One of the main features of the place is the amount of flowering plants & bird life we get, it’s very peaceful & calming after the horrendous few years we went through.
I have a cat trap, as I don’t want anything going after my birds or lizards. In the last month I’ve dispatched 3 cats out at the farm. If people want to keep cats as pets, they can keep them fû*king indoors . . .
 

Lincs Lass

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Location
north lincs
i live on 6 acres on the edge of town, bought it 2 years ago now near the end of a raging 3 - 4 year drought. One of the main features of the place is the amount of flowering plants & bird life we get, it’s very peaceful & calming after the horrendous few years we went through.
I have a cat trap, as I don’t want anything going after my birds or lizards. In the last month I’ve dispatched 3 cats out at the farm. If people want to keep cats as pets, they can keep them fû*king indoors . . .
Is it true ,one of the ausie states have banned domestic cats from roaming free unless the owner takes them out on a lead .
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
Is it true ,one of the ausie states have banned domestic cats from roaming free unless the owner takes them out on a lead .

i don’t actually know ?

but yes, I have heard of people agitating for that & it may be true in some local council areas . . .

feral cats are a HUGE problem here, but domestic pets also cause a lot of carnage with native birds, marsupials & reptiles
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
i don’t actually know ?

but yes, I have heard of people agitating for that & it may be true in some local council areas . . .

feral cats are a HUGE problem here, but domestic pets also cause a lot of carnage with native birds, marsupials & reptiles
 

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